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Former UFC champion Ronda Rousey revealed that she thought about ‘killing herself’ soon after her shocking loss to Holly Holm in November.

During an appearance on The Ellen Degeneres Show, which is set to air Tuesday, the current SI Swimsuit cover model admitted that she plummeted to dangerous lows after losing her bantamweight title in that fight.

 

In the powerful exchange, Rousey explained what it was like physically to be hit by Holm. She then started to cry as she described how she felt mentally immediately after the fight.

Honestly, my thought, I was like, in the medical room and I was like down in the corner, I was in the corner and I was like ‘ what am I any more if I’m not this?’

I was literally sitting there and thinking about killing myself and that exact second I’m like ‘I’m nothing, what do I do anymore and no one gives a shit about me anymore without this.’

And to be honest I looked up and I saw my man Travis was standing up there and I looked up at him and I was like, I need to have his babies. I need to stay alive. Really that was it.’ I haven’t told anybody that. I only told him.

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See the full article including video of the interview HERE

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I think she mellowed so much due to the whole boyfriend drama...She was totally NOT in top mental frame when she took this fight and it showed.

I think the suicide talks are fuel for the Ronda haters - I'm not sure if it's the truth. Although she does give the vibe of a pretty polarized person - she's sensitive and emotional, cries a lot, but on the other had, she's a hard worker and grind through every painful aspect of training. That makes me a little bit more prone to believe she actually could have suicidal thoughts. I'm in no position to judge her and if her motherly instinct awakend in such a situation and made it better for her - great for her! Although my fangirl heart cries at the thought that she might already be pregnant or get pregnant before her rematch with Holm...

But of course, whatever makes her happy...I'll respect that. She did great until now, even if she lost to Holm. She still has a legacy that can only continue to go on.

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I really admire her courage to talk so openly about what are clearly very personal emotional experiences.

 

I think she mellowed so much due to the whole boyfriend drama...She was totally NOT in top mental frame when she took this fight and it showed.

I think the suicide talks are fuel for the Ronda haters - I'm not sure if it's the truth. Although she does give the vibe of a pretty polarized person - she's sensitive and emotional, cries a lot, but on the other had, she's a hard worker and grind through every painful aspect of training. 

 

I think the haters are more likely to go after her for the Travis comment, even they usually have at least the small amount of humanity required to realize that making fun of suicidal thoughts is too far.

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I have to say that it got a little whiplash, unexpectedly going from suicide to babies. I was totally sympathetic with her over-wrought feeling, but when she bounced to having to stay alive for her man's babies, it kinda made me reconsider her as a whole. I think she's been incredibly brave and strong bearing the weight of UFC popularity as a woman - so much pressure, but I don't know...this seemed a little unstable sounding.

How terrible to have your every thought scrutinized though.

 

What did you think Emma?

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My take on her comment about suicide was that it was a fleeting reaction to the shock of that KO. There was no talk of serious or sustained suicidal tendencies. I can see how being beaten so spectacularly could have prompted something of an existential crisis for her, since her whole persona was built upon her supposed invincibility. There is a psychological link between existential crises and the desire to reproduce, i.e. people who are grieving or have nearly died may feel a sudden urge to have a baby (obviously I’m not saying she literally nearly died but her sense of loss was clearly enormous). She also seems to be very in love with her boyfriend.

 

On a more cynical note, the confessional, teary interview, and viral headlines about babies, “suicidal thoughts” etc. has got her rolling through everyone’s newsfeeds once again, and in the absence of any imminent fighting, she needs the publicity.

 

Either way, I think she’s more interesting now than ever, and like Micc, I really hope a pregnancy doesn’t prevent that rematch!

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On a more cynical note, the confessional, teary interview, and viral headlines about babies, “suicidal thoughts” etc. has got her rolling through everyone’s newsfeeds once again, and in the absence of any imminent fighting, she needs the publicity.

 

So hard to read what really is the case, but one has to admit that her team has become very media savvy. Apparently her lawyers have just recently filed for patents around the phrase "Fuck Them All" 5 in particular to the abbreviation FTA. Rousey is no longer just a person fighting, if she ever was only that. She's the center of a moving media event, and the commerce that goes along with it. When you patent phrases you are going to be using in the future, that's some serious premeditation.

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I have never been a big fan of Ronda's attitude, but I cannot judge how it is to be under pressure all the time, to be seen by medias and to read or hear comments about you. I guess it is like everyone's life but like a billions time more intense, and if it is a billion times more intense, then I can only imagine how she can feel about high and down in her life. 
I agree with @Micc that she looks sensitive and emotional. 
What she said on that TV show resonate with me so much I wrote a text on medium.
I'm not sure she was acting to get publicity. Only her knows it :)
Let's hope she will rematch soon Holms, and that it will be a good fight, whether she looses or wins.

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My take on her comment about suicide was that it was a fleeting reaction to the shock of that KO. There was no talk of serious or sustained suicidal tendencies. I can see how being beaten so spectacularly could have prompted something of an existential crisis for her, since her whole persona was built upon her supposed invincibility. There is a psychological link between existential crises and the desire to reproduce, i.e. people who are grieving or have nearly died may feel a sudden urge to have a baby (obviously I’m not saying she literally nearly died but her sense of loss was clearly enormous). She also seems to be very in love with her boyfriend.

 

On a more cynical note, the confessional, teary interview, and viral headlines about babies, “suicidal thoughts” etc. has got her rolling through everyone’s newsfeeds once again, and in the absence of any imminent fighting, she needs the publicity.

 

Either way, I think she’s more interesting now than ever, and like Micc, I really hope a pregnancy doesn’t prevent that rematch!

Very much in agreement with you here. When I read the headline I was pretty shocked, but when she actually started talking in the interview and said it was when she was in the medical room, literally hours after the fight, I thought, "well, of course." I've certainly never thought of killing myself after a loss, but absolutely ridiculous thoughts about having your identity ripped asunder due to something as objectively benign as a loss... I get that. Those are incredibly selfish moments after a loss, at a moment of failure. Success is shared, it's social and communal. Loss is very, very self-centering.

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