Liniment oil. yay or nay?

[Lobo11]

So, months ago, I had the great opportunity to have a traditional MT guy give me a private.  As I was warming up he asked me if I used any liniment.  I'd never even heard of the stuff/deer in headlights...

Several injuries later, including a torn hamstring, I'm wondering if my old self needs to start using it.

Any thoughts for a noob?  Pros/cons?  Do you use it?  Why?  Why not?  Does it burn?  Does it stain?  Is it only for fights mostly? Is it supposed to help with injuries? When/how should I use it?  Do you warm up and THEN put it on or do it before?

PS- I live in a mild to colder climate if that makes any difference...

Any insight is appreciated.

[NewThai]

It's quite oily, though I haven't noticed any stains. The namman muay I have is in liquid form, though one chick on Instagram had it in cream form. I only really use it on something if it's sore, in which case I'll apply before training. It's kind of menthylated similar to Bengay or IcyHot so not for the eyes or other sensitive areas. I don't think it makes a huge difference personally, but others swear by it.

[WaffleNinja]

Joe Rogan asked JWP about it and I think he said he likes it but I cant really remember. Heres the podcast:

 

[Lobo11]

JRE @2:08.  Thanks guys.  I think I'm just going to jump in and get some of the liquid.  Hopefully this goes better than the time I bought gold bond "body" powder and didn't read it was the extra strength "foot" powder. 

[emma]

I love this stuff. I usually only use it before fights, but occasionally put a little on in training when something feels really tight. Put it on before warming up, though. If you're already sweaty, it will burn! It doesn't stain, but it does smell very strong. After coming back from a fight, my whole room smells of it for a couple of days!

[Lobo11]

Thanks Emma.  I ordered some up on amazon.  Seems affordable.  Winter is coming and I don't need any more pulls or tears.

[Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu]

  On 11/2/2015 at 11:17 PM, Lobo11 said:

So, months ago, I had the great opportunity to have a traditional MT guy give me a private.  As I was warming up he asked me if I used any liniment.  I'd never even heard of the stuff/deer in headlights...

Several injuries later, including a torn hamstring, I'm wondering if my old self needs to start using it.

Any thoughts for a noob?  Pros/cons?  Do you use it?  Why?  Why not?  Does it burn?  Does it stain?  Is it only for fights mostly? Is it supposed to help with injuries? When/how should I use it?  Do you warm up and THEN put it on or do it before?

PS- I live in a mild to colder climate if that makes any difference...

Any insight is appreciated.

I agree with Emma, be sure to put it on when you're cold. If you warm up first the pores open and that's when the burning is intense. As well, I only really use the liniment before fights. In Thailand the warmup before a fight isn't hitting pads and skipping rope as it is in some parts of the west, but the massage with the liniment warms up all your muscles and you do some light shadow to stretch out, then you're good to go. 

So if you're going to use this for training, rub the liniment in (if you really rub it into the skin and don't use so much that you're shiny, it won't get on your clothes or car or whatever else) and then do your warmup. The Thai kids use it in the morning before the run as it's pretty much straight out of bed and onto the road, so they put it on their calves and sometimes quads. I put it on my legs if I'm particularly sore in the morning training,

There's a "cooler" version (this liquid liniment is a "hot" version) that's green and called "Marwin." That one doesn't burn and is better for massaging your muscles when you're at rest rather than to warm them up for training. It's also amazing if you have a chest cold to rub some on your chest before sleep, like how Vic's works.

[Lobo11]

Thanks for the insight and tips Sylvie!

[Giulia Caruso]

Do you have name/amazon link for it?

[NewThai]

Sylvie, interesting about the cool version. I might give that a whirl at some point too.

 

Miss Bruise, here's an Amazon link for you:

http://www.amazon.com/Namman-Muay-Boxing-Liniment-120ml/dp/B001ON8ZN6

[emma]

  On 11/5/2015 at 2:02 AM, Sylvie said:

There's a "cooler" version (this liquid liniment is a "hot" version) that's green and called "Marwin." That one doesn't burn and is better for massaging your muscles when you're at rest rather than to warm them up for training. It's also amazing if you have a chest cold to rub some on your chest before sleep, like how Vic's works.

The TV adverts for this one really get me for some reason. Just some dude repeatedly saying 'MAAAAAAAAAAAARWIN!'

[Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu]

  On 11/6/2015 at 5:41 AM, Emma Thomas said:

The TV adverts for this one really get me for some reason. Just some dude repeatedly saying 'MAAAAAAAAAAAARWIN!'

Yes, I say that annoying MAAAA-WIN! on repeat every time I use it. There are a few commercials like that, actually... so memorable in the worst ways.

[515]

I only use it before a fight, very occasionally if I'm really stiff but mostly only before a fight. I like it than if it gets rubbed in well with a massage, feels good :)

[Giulia Caruso]

Just to add info for european folks:

 

I bought it from this website http://www.muay.itwhich is the italian interface of an import from slovenia (??)

I could order it and pay in cash at the postal guy, it took one week, no problems.

 

Here the list of all european distributors

http://www.nammanmuay.eu/en/where-to-buy/

 

I still have to use it, I'll let you know!