Suggestions for Krus and Legends to Film for the Muay Thai Library

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

3 hours ago, Xestaro said:

Somehow he got pretty well known when some pretty hardcore pad-sessions with him went viral online. He seems to be a man who deeply mourned the loss of his ability to fight in the ring and now tries to help other people do that. Pushes his students very hard but because he really wants them to improve and be well prepared and at least to my eyes he also has a lot to offer. He seems to somehow have managed to take the spirit of a fighter he still has into being a trainer.

He's not really the kind of trainer we are drawn to. Yes, I know he's been highlighted lately, and people find him very interesting, but to tell you the truth the whole "viral" thing is pretty big red flag. Plus, I've seen this review of his gym, which is intense in its dismissal:

Elite Fight Club in BKK is possibly the worst gym I have trained at in Thailand, and I've been here over 30 times to train. I've trained in grassroots country gyms in Isaan where I was the first and only farang to train there, I've trained at hardcore gyms in the slums of Khlong Toei, trained at hi-so gyms in BKK where the rich Thai girls train, and I've trained at the tourist gyms in Phuket. Elite is by far the worst of them all. It was more like a fitness bootcamp class at the YMCA than a Muay Thai training session.

No Gae didn't beat me up. He was there, but he only peeked out his window at the class and then went back to bed.

 

Who knows what is true, but even if half of what was written is true of energy and what has been built, not very interesting. Live and let live is our motto, but these kinds of things we steer clear of, one way or another. I do appreciate the follow up though.

[Xestaro]

20 minutes ago, Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu said:

He's not really the kind of trainer we are drawn to. Yes, I know he's been highlighted lately, and people find him very interesting, but to tell you the truth the whole "viral" thing is pretty big red flag. Plus, I've seen this review of his gym, which is intense in its dismissal:

Elite Fight Club in BKK is possibly the worst gym I have trained at in Thailand, and I've been here over 30 times to train. I've trained in grassroots country gyms in Isaan where I was the first and only farang to train there, I've trained at hardcore gyms in the slums of Khlong Toei, trained at hi-so gyms in BKK where the rich Thai girls train, and I've trained at the tourist gyms in Phuket. Elite is by far the worst of them all. It was more like a fitness bootcamp class at the YMCA than a Muay Thai training session.

No Gae didn't beat me up. He was there, but he only peeked out his window at the class and then went back to bed.

 

Who knows what is true, but even if half of what was written is true of energy and what has been built, not very interesting. Live and let live is our motto, but these kinds of things we steer clear of, one way or another. I do appreciate the follow up though.

Ooooh well I can understand that.

I can only judge from what video material I see online and that looked great and interesting, so... No worries, I can totally understand being careful after reading stuff like that. Didn't look into any reviews myself since I wont be in Thailand anytime soon.

[LengLeng]

5 hours ago, Xestaro said:

To clarify a bit, I was talking about this man: http://www.ajarngae.com/

 

Somehow he got pretty well known when some pretty hardcore pad-sessions with him went viral online. He seems to be a man who deeply mourned the loss of his ability to fight in the ring and now tries to help other people do that. Pushes his students very hard but because he really wants them to improve and be well prepared and at least to my eyes he also has a lot to offer. He seems to somehow have managed to take the spirit of a fighter he still has into being a trainer.
I would be very interested to learn more about him and his style and see what he and Sylvie can do together.

I'm gonna jump on this one because I'm curious. Ajarn Gae is well known and so is Elite Fight Club. It comes up as suggestion in many discussions on muay thai gym, but mainly from westerners with limited experience of training in Thailand. And people with more experience will sort of not be too enthusiastic in their response. I've never tried it out because of this reason. I've seen one of the trainers (not Gae but also known) a couple of times on the BTS as I pass by EFC daily.

Anyhow now I see the same non-enthusiastic response and I'm curious. Is it because Gae and EFC are a bit touristy?

 

Edited September 2, 2019 by LengLeng
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[Sebastian CL]

On 9/1/2019 at 10:16 PM, Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu said:

Sylvie loves him. We almost set a session up, but our contact kind of moved out of the picture for a while. He was at Muaythai Plaza in Bangkok for a long time. I think we could track him down again. Thanks for the reminder!

I'm glad to hear Sylvie likes him, dangerous from any position at almost any distance. I hope that it'll work itself out and he'll be in there sooner rather than later. It'd be awesome! He's not at Muay Thai plaza anymore right? From what I've heard he's moved?

And while we're at it, any chance of Lerdsila showing up in the library? The Eel would be great continuing on the Jocky guys you've already got in the library.

Thank you for you're work and dedication in capturing "real" Muay Thai. I especially enjoy that it has become a real good bridge between old and new MT techniques. 

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

3 hours ago, Sebastian CL said:

And while we're at it, any chance of Lerdsila showing up in the library?

Never say never, but he really is outside of our scope. We blend our filming around Sylvie's travel for fights and the islands are really not on the radar. If we do expand the next area of reach will be Isaan. There are many we want to film with several legends and krus. We really don't want to go to the islands, hahaha. But, maybe one day!

[Snack Payback]

Sylvie is filming with Vicharnnoi today            

 

           

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

On 9/28/2019 at 10:01 AM, Snack Payback said:

Sylvie is filming with Vicharnnoi today    

Unfortunately, this one didn't work out all that well! We got Dieselnoi to set it up, and he came with us and we all sat down and had a conversation, chatted old times, but Vichannoi was not in a place where he wanted to do any instruction. He's gained a fair amount of weight, and seems like a super successful businessman. So, we didn't push it, and instead and a nice talk. Not every effort to film works out!

 

[Snack Payback]

On 11/21/2019 at 2:52 PM, Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu said:

Unfortunately, this one didn't work out all that well! We got Dieselnoi to set it up, and he came with us and we all sat down and had a conversation, chatted old times, but Vichannoi was not in a place where he wanted to do any instruction. He's gained a fair amount of weight, and seems like a super successful businessman. So, we didn't push it, and instead and a nice talk. Not every effort to film works out! 

 

No worries Kevin   I'd actually come across a fairly recent picture of Vicharnnoi and Poot Lorlek in Siam Fight Mag just before Sylvie posted she was going to film with Vicharnnoi - and noticed he was a bit pum pui (I already knew Poot Lorlek had let himself go in his retirement). So it's understandable. Did you record the conversation?  

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

3 hours ago, Snack Payback said:

Did you record the conversation?  

We did, but I'm not sure if it is worthy of a translation. It was mostly just Dieselnoi hanging out with him, which was nice enough. Dieselnoi literally got on his knees to greet him, which is really extraordinary to see a Thai do. And on his knees when he went to leave as well.

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

3 hours ago, Snack Payback said:

I already knew Poot Lorlek had let himself go in his retirement

He did gain quite a bit of weight, but fought Sagat as little as 8 years ago, don't know if you saw that:

 

[Snack Payback]

On 11/23/2019 at 2:00 AM, Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu said:

We did, but I'm not sure if it is worthy of a translation. It was mostly just Dieselnoi hanging out with him, which was nice enough. Dieselnoi literally got on his knees to greet him, which is really extraordinary to see a Thai do. And on his knees when he went to leave as well.

Ah ok, no worries

 

On 11/23/2019 at 2:03 AM, Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu said:

He did gain quite a bit of weight, but fought Sagat as little as 8 years ago, don't know if you saw that:

 

Yes, Sagat was talking about it when I met him last year. He wasn't happy with the judges decision, thought he clearly won the fight  

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

2 hours ago, Snack Payback said:

Yes, Sagat was talking about it when I met him last year. He wasn't happy with the judges decision, thought he clearly won the fight  

It was in Putlorlek's home town, or somewhere he has a lot of support. It shouldn't have been a surprise to him, hahaha.

[Snack Payback]

Oley Kiatoneway works as a trainer at Parunchai Gym, Thung Song, Nakhon Si Thammarat.

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

17 minutes ago, Snack Payback said:

Oley Kiatoneway works as a trainer at Parunchai Gym, Thung Song, Nakhon Si Thammarat.

Yes, training with him is difficult to arrange. We have tried. We will continue to try.

[Mick Moody]

I would love to see Samkor Kiatmontep in the Library (especially that kick in slow motion). I think he might not be in Thailand though.

[Kevin Kho]

Hi Sylvie, love with all your great work and contribution to Muay thai, I hope you could help to film for Ajarn somboon, he is a former price fighter in Rajadumdern during 60s, head judge for referees in the south, and an instructor who teach Muay Thai trainer for more than 30years. He is also senior of Ajarn Surat. Below is his contact. Thank you once again. Much appreciated. 

Name: Ajarn somboon Tapina

Gym name: Muay Thai Martial Arts Academy Surat Thani

Contact: 081 895 4861

Website: https://sites.google.com/view/muaythaiacademy

 

 

 

[Zsolti]

On 5/21/2019 at 11:47 AM, Mathieu said:

He is still in life,  i have his phone number

Can I have it please? 

After covid I'd like to train with him. 

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

On 4/20/2020 at 4:16 AM, Mick Moody said:

I would love to see Samkor Kiatmontep in the Library (especially that kick in slow motion). I think he might not be in Thailand though.

I'm pretty sure he isn't. I forgot where Sylvie said he was, but it wasn't Thailand.

[phyfey]

I think Parinya Charoenphol would be a great addition to the library. From cursory internet research she had a gym at some point in Pran Buri, Parinya Muay Thai. The most recent facebook post is from 2012. Here is her blog with a phone number and email https://parinyamuaythaigym.blogspot.com/.

 

Not only would I be interested in hearing her experience as a (most?) popular kathoey fighter but also shes just got an awesome style. She has a strong defend and return attack as well a cool side teep among other weapons. Her flying elbows and knees look unique and fearsome and isnt something Ive seen much in the MTL.

 

Heres an intense fight of hers if anyone is interested. Such a close match!

 

[Sören]

How about a session about the early grind of the young fighters?

In many sessions it is said that there is heavy grind in the early years of training, for example the session with Singdam Kiatmoo9, which leads to a solid foundation in most of the future fighters. 

 

[Imagineer]

Was browsing this thread and in response to Samkor's whereabouts, he is at an upscale boxing gym located in the financial district of Hong Kong, https://www.southpawhk.com/about/. The place does small group class trainings and PTs, but is quite expensive. I checked prices back in Aug 2022. They did have a buy a PT trial session, get a second session free promotion back then. However the standard list price PT sessions were around USD115 and that was from purchasing a 12 class package.

As I've only started MT a year ago recreationally, I will get a bit better first before doing PTs with him!

 

@Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu @Mick Moody

Edited April 18, 2023 by Imagineer

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

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As I've only started MT a year ago recreationally, I will get a bit better first before doing PTs with him!

Very cool! We'd love to film with him when he comes to visit Thailand again.