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Hopefully Sylvie will jump on later tonight, but you don't need to use a towel at all. You can heat the area first, and then rub with your hands, then passively heat again. The heat gets everything open, the massage drains the area. Also Sylvie was showed by I think Wung that you can use a glass bottle (like your coach said) but with very warm water. But not ice. Heat does the healing after the first 24-48.
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One fight description: The women touch gloves and Van Soest is the first to attack with an inside thigh kick. Krol is being a little cautious as the American is being the aggressor. The Pole looks out matched as Van Soest’s blows are landing clean. Krol attempts a spinning back fist that doesn’t land but she remains focused as Van Soest lands a jab. The second round is underway as the touch’em up again. This time it is Krol whois on the attack but Van Soest answers with a side kick. Van Soest is the smaller fighter, but every time Krol makes a move she makes her pay for it. Van Soest fights her way to the inside and lands several knees in the clinch before the round comes to an end. Van Soest has Krol on the ropes and is landing knees in the clinch until the ref breaks them up leading to Krol landing a front kick to Van Soest’s face and then another to the chest. Van Soest lands a Superman…or a Supergirl punch rather leading to one of her spinning back elbows. Krol tries to land a spinning back elbow of her own, but with very little power behind it, it doesn’t affect the American. Krol starts the round with a switch kick but Van Soest lands a low kick knocking Krol to the canvas. Van Soest is dominating the fourth round just like she has been the previous three. Fifth and final round is now underway, both fighters are showing signs of fatigue, it’s now down to who wants it more as they hug it out before the feet start flying. Van Soest has Krol’s leg while pressed against the ropes and lands a right cross almost knocking the Pole out of the ring. Van Soest is letting the elbows fly as the referee gives Krol a standing 8-count for not being able to defend herself in the corner. With 10 clicks of the clock Van Soest is still on the attack as the fight comes to an end. In the eyes of the audience, Van Soest is in the winner as she ascends the ropes and bows to the crowd. Your winner by unanimous decision and still Lion FIght Featherweight Champion, Tiffany Van Soest!
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Thanks Dana. What I'm interested in is body mapping, the Efference Copy. I sense that when trauma happens to us, especially violent invasive events, our body maps become redrawn. This involves our virtual selves, the copies we use to project ourselves into space and predict how we will interact with other/s (objects, events, spaces), which influences our sense of agency. I suspect that we have different body maps for different thresholds of arousal/intensity, and that fighting and training to fight forces a kind of regrowth of body maps that have been broken or amputated in some ways. As fighters with impaired body maps attempt to train actions under extreme duress, and they enter into those thresholds, it is as if certain limbs or pathways of action are being grown again - under the auspices of the art. But this is very slow work. One of the most frustrating aspects of becoming a fighter, for some people, is: "Why can't I do x or y, when under pressure?!" The harder they push to do it, the more impossible it becomes. I believe, that at least for some people, they simply do not have the body map to complete those actions, under those intense affects. It's like asking someone to take a step with a 3rd foot, a limb they don't have. It is literally off the grid. I could see how memories, conscious or otherwise, play a role in these maps because they return us to primordial states, but here the idea is more about two-fold thinking. Train bringing yourself back down into affective states where you have a more complete body map. Two, through the art itself and stress inoculations grow your impaired body map at higher states. Literally grow your virtual limbs under pressure.
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Teresa really looked focused and intense, but an unfortunate series of turns/slips in the 4th turned the tide and she just couldn't recapture the momentum. Good fight. Kwanchai's cross-face in clinch effective early on.
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Caley Reece had no difficulty defeating Tiffany using the clinch on Lionfight. But Martyna (or even Bernise Alldis, another opponent of Tiffany's) isn't a clinch fighter on the level of Caley, imo. Nothing against either of them, but Caley is a notch above in the clinch. That being said, the task is even harder now as Tiffany looks like she's improving in the clinch as well.
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Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu replied to Kaitlin Rose Young's topic in Gym Advice and Experiences
This is pretty cool. Sylvie put this up last night on Facebook. The Thai national team of women all training at Dejrat gym, at least for the day. It would seem that the gym is unusually and beautifully focused on Thai female fighters. Probably both experienced with training women (important) and connected with promoting them. These are some of the best female fighters in their weight class in Thailand. Doesn't mean there won't be hurdles, but this seems like an awesome sign. From left: Chommanee (57kg), Lommanee/Nong Naen (48kg), Duannapa (63.5kg), Nong Gif (60kg), Namdtan (54kg), Front Row, from left: Loma (45kg) and Nong Brai (51kg). -
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Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu replied to Kaitlin Rose Young's topic in Gym Advice and Experiences
Sorry, just saw this. Young girls are pre-sexual (in many ways, though still have to go under the bottom rope), so they can get solid training in clinch if the gym cares enough about them. Because the earning power of girls is so much less than boys, it seems that the girls get the best training when they are part of their family gym, the family (usually the father) has an investment in them. Don't know about the Buriram gym. We've seen two girls in training. A young girl, Bai, at Petchrungruang who at times trains right beside the boys, in pretty tough, but then fades from training. Her dad is a pad holder. And Phetjee Jaa who's become the superstar at her gym, and the main provider for her family. But generally females have a purely secondary place in most Thai gyms. -
I thought she did a good job, she mostly teeped. It's more about how frequent mismatches occur. I imagine though that for female fighters as big as Baars who fights up to 67 kg, it's hard to find Thais large enough, and skilled enough in Thailand. Perhaps why a fighter like Julie Kitchen seldom fought in Thailand, and when she did it was against a westerner. (Though I'm guessing, I don't know the weight class.)
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https://www.facebook.com/574393418/videos/10153425956413419/ Google Translate: The past two weeks I have been in Thailand. It would be for vacation. But because I'm in America July 10 would actually fight and was still "fight ready." Am I just going by train. I asked Rosalie and Sakrungroj to arrange a fight. Well last Friday was so far. I would against a strong lady from Bangkok. 50 Fights had already turned and she could stairs very well and she would do English boxing ..... Then came into the hall, I saw someone who looked a lot like her picture, but she looked more like a boy. And had made considerable sturdy legs. But it was her. I got a real Thai massage with preparation and ritual. Really super to agree. Well the main fight was announced so I go in that ring. Here is the video of the fight ...... Unfortunately, I did not much satisfaction can get out but I did it again ff race had feeling. On to the next Feels like a typical farang vs Thai mismatch. The video makes me sad, honestly, though surely nothing in Jorina's control. Once again, Thai refs know what they are doing. Re-watch the fight just looking at the ref from the :45 mark on. He's on it.
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I ran into this article on the 2012 WMC World Title fights in Phuket. Warning, it is an extremely sharp-tongued, and very likely to some, offensive rant. It's hard to know if the author had axes to grind with specific fighters or gyms, but to those not there it does give a sense that all was not right with this event. In fact the Claire Haigh title fight is a fight that actually spurred Caley Reece to retire (the first time). By Caley's admission that world title meant a ton and it really hit her hard to have it given away. Since then organizations seem to have adopted the "interim" title as the way to go, something they don't always make clear in publicizing events where belts seem to be fought for in every fight. After this event it feels like the WMC started to recede from female fighting somehow, and the WPMF has stepped forward some. The WMC once was the dominant body. Of course the fighters just fight, no fault to them. You fight who is put in front of you. And running sactioning bodies in Thailand must be something like herding cats, with everyone looking out for individual interests, and exercising leverage to some degree. It's just to say that maybe progress is needed. The above fight is the fight the author is most disturbed by, Tracy Lockwood vs Gerry Rawai. The final round indeed was cut short, only about 1:10 in length.
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Of course. :) just link a back here if you could.
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This is great. It sums up the whole fight, which turned out to be something of a blow out. He completely took Dekkers' weapons off line and made a very talented fighter look one-dimensional, and did so with only a few tools himself. I loved that high left hand guard he used, gluing his hand up there from the beginning. You could tell he came in with a plan. And your last GIF is so symbolic. It must have been a very frustrating fight for Dekkers.
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This was a great technical fight. It wasn't just teeps, it was never standing in punching range in both directions. He was either teeping and long striking or smothering in the clinch. Always too far or too close. Nice GIFs.
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"Thai Boxing" as a term has been on the steady decline, world wide. You can see it vs "Muay Thai":
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This is the fight if anyone did not see it. For me this fight was all about Lawler circling right and staying off the centerline. Anytime he did this he was killing Macdonald and was hardly touched. I have no idea why Macdonald kept circling right with him, taking his right hand out of the fight. (Watched with the sound off, so apologize if this was a point made in the broadcast.)
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Gregory, here's a time lapse I captured from the Google data on the growth of searches for Muay Thai in Thailand over the last 5 years. This is the surge that I believe the Google Trend data is taking into account:
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Hey Gregory, great to see you here, always love your pov. This is my thinking on the Topic data. Yes, I used the Topic feature in my last graph involving Fairtex and Lumpinee in the OP. I used it there because Lumpinee is also a park in Bangkok, and involves names of hotels as well, but honestly there aren't good reasons for using it here, in this data. My first reason is just personal experience. As a digital marketer, with lots of experience with AdWords, I find specific keywords to be telling, even in the broad sense. I know what I'm looking at. The Topic algorithm on the other hand draws on factors that are completely unknown, and is designed to be - I'm guessing - fairly wide-reaching. In cases like "Lumpinee" it makes some sense to weed out obvious divergences, but in terms like these much less so - simply because we don't know what is being measured. As I suggested "muay thai" likely flourished in the UFC bubble as a discovery term, so at least to my eye it makes a good data point for what I'm trying to measure here, which is the outer edge of interest growth: Is Muay Thai growing in popularity? If the elementary keyword data picture says it isn't, in rather strong way, but an "topic" algorithm is saying something else, I need to understand why, especially because the trend algo is unknown. This leads to a big inclusion problem with the Topic feature specifically with Muay Thai: it blends together the international term "Muay Thai" with the Thai language term for Muay Thai "มวยไทย". In my last post in the thread I show that there has been an explosion in Muay Thai Thai language searches in Thailand, mostly due to the spread of internet access through mobile, especially in the last two years. It has grown so much so that now there are nearly as many searches for the term in Thailand, by index, as there is in the rest of the world. This artificial growth (so to speak, because due to access) I believe really skews the Trend data, and makes it look like interest is expanding (when it is actually technology spreading). Because I want to look at how Muay Thai is fairing internationally, this isn't great. You can see the inclusion of Thai language searches in the location and keywords section of the trend, which is heavily loaded by those searches: Also, because we don't know what goes into the Topic algorithm, I don't even know if something like related searches also is factored in, as the "Thai Language" topic (on the left, above) is really on the rise. An algorithm might favor it, but I would not. Before I settled on the keyword data I did check the Topic data against their parallel keyword graphs (for instance UFC and Kickboxing) and saw that these graphs pretty much paralleled each other with the same shape (the main difference being volume). They told the same story. Only in the Muay Thai graphs did I find a strong divergence which really ruled out Topics for this quick study. It mixed apples and oranges so to speak.
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We just had our dog over at Lanna, it's very dog friendly as a place as the original owner Andy had lots of dogs, but you never know how the resident dogs will take to yours. Usually these things tend to work out, but you know your dog best. There are about 3 full grown dogs there, and a older pup, by my memory. As to socialization, we just kept ours on the leash. It can be pretty hard to find apartments around Lanna (and in fact Chiang Mai) that allow dogs, but the hotel across the road does, but it's pricey. Don't know much about dogs and Santai. Lanna's going through a transition phase right now too, with their head trainer heading to Scotland at the beginning of August, so its really hard to say what the state of the gym will be. ...so sad to hear about your girl. Must have been terrible.
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For example, there is bad blood between California’s Combat Sports Academy (CSA) who happen to be very capable and effective self promoters, and the Chasteen/Earley brothers of Best Muay Thai in Arizona that went 100% ignored by anyone with a voice to speak to the casual fan. From a marketing standpoint, TALK about a missed opportunity! At Lion Fight 18, CSA’s Eddie Abasolo fought Best Muay Thai’s Damien Earley and was disqualified after an [accidental or intentional depending on who you love more] illegal elbow to the back of the head. From there trash talking ensued on social media between both camps. It was a decently interesting affair; nothing earth shattering but it had potential to pay-off later. I can't think of anything more boring this this. Squabbling gyms? Ugh. People bitching in social media? If this is what "saves" Muay Thai in the West, let it die.
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