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Gavin, as long as the goal will keep you motivated to move and not "sit in front of the TV" as you said, I'd advise you to stick to it. It might take longer, but it's a learning process. As long as you handle your schedule, you can do it. I work a full time job and train 6x a week, but I also have a part-time job from time to time that takes up around 5h a week. It's not much, I know, but I still manage around it to make my training schedule work. Uh, if you are ready to give up most of your social life ;)

And congrats on the weight loss! I finally managed to move a bit down on the scale, too :) It's just 1kg, but a firm 1kg-loss is better than nothing :)

I watched my first sparing video from last year a few days ago and I was like "nooo, is it me? it's me. nooo. It's so hilarious!!" But I'm not embarassed, because I think I made some progress during this year, technique-wise and even though my weight is exactly the same as last year, I think I look slimmer now. :) 

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Gavin, as long as the goal will keep you motivated to move and not "sit in front of the TV" as you said, I'd advise you to stick to it. It might take longer, but it's a learning process. As long as you handle your schedule, you can do it. I work a full time job and train 6x a week, but I also have a part-time job from time to time that takes up around 5h a week. It's not much, I know, but I still manage around it to make my training schedule work. Uh, if you are ready to give up most of your social life ;)

I wouldn't give up on it all together, but just rearrange it around your new work life, and be prepared for it to take longer. I just quoted Micc because I thought it was spot on.  :smile:

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I don't think you should give up. Goals are there to give you something difficult to strive towards, not necessarily just so you can accomplish something. Sometimes falling short of a goal is more helpful than succeeding (it can give you added motivation for the next shot). I say stick with your plan, and see where it gets you. If you don't make it in your desired time frame, just keep on rolling until you hit your mark. Then set a new goal and try again! We don't improve without falling, and only truly fail if we quit.

 

On a side note, doing something you enjoy outside of work will often make you better AT work. You don't have to be a professional fighter to enjoy the workouts. You will be more relaxed and hopefully less overwhelmed when things do get crazy at work. I dove head first into my last job and its literally the only thing I had in my life. If things were stressful or bad there, I couldn't escape it. It ended very very poorly lol. But I learned from it and whenever I do go back, I am going to try my best to use moderation. Your career is always going to be a part of your life but you've gotta have other stuff outside of that that keeps you sane as well :)

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Gavin, as long as the goal will keep you motivated to move and not "sit in front of the TV" as you said, I'd advise you to stick to it. It might take longer, but it's a learning process. As long as you handle your schedule, you can do it. I work a full time job and train 6x a week, but I also have a part-time job from time to time that takes up around 5h a week. It's not much, I know, but I still manage around it to make my training schedule work. Uh, if you are ready to give up most of your social life ;)

And congrats on the weight loss! I finally managed to move a bit down on the scale, too :) It's just 1kg, but a firm 1kg-loss is better than nothing :)

I watched my first sparing video from last year a few days ago and I was like "nooo, is it me? it's me. nooo. It's so hilarious!!" But I'm not embarassed, because I think I made some progress during this year, technique-wise and even though my weight is exactly the same as last year, I think I look slimmer now. :) 

 

Hey Micc, that's great. I think 1kg makes a difference. Imagine having to do a whole workout while holding a 1kg dumbbell. It would be difficult, huh?

 

I wouldn't give up on it all together, but just rearrange it around your new work life, and be prepared for it to take longer. I just quoted Micc because I thought it was spot on.  :smile:

 

Thank you mate.

I don't think you should give up. Goals are there to give you something difficult to strive towards, not necessarily just so you can accomplish something. Sometimes falling short of a goal is more helpful than succeeding (it can give you added motivation for the next shot). I say stick with your plan, and see where it gets you. If you don't make it in your desired time frame, just keep on rolling until you hit your mark. Then set a new goal and try again! We don't improve without falling, and only truly fail if we quit.

 

On a side note, doing something you enjoy outside of work will often make you better AT work. You don't have to be a professional fighter to enjoy the workouts. You will be more relaxed and hopefully less overwhelmed when things do get crazy at work. I dove head first into my last job and its literally the only thing I had in my life. If things were stressful or bad there, I couldn't escape it. It ended very very poorly lol. But I learned from it and whenever I do go back, I am going to try my best to use moderation. Your career is always going to be a part of your life but you've gotta have other stuff outside of that that keeps you sane as well :)

 

Thank you Tyler. I am going to continue with my original goal, because like you said just by aiming for it I will be more successful than if I give up.

 

On wednesday I did a boxing class and it was kinda brutal (for me) from a conditioning aspect. We did 300 lunges, 300 pushups and 100 squats interspersed between 800 punches. I still can't walk properly and it's Saturday. I was in awe of people who just went straight into the next class, because I was shattered by the end of it. I tried to run across a street and just ending up half walking.

The trainer explained that this isn't really a lot of lunges, and I agree, but it was a lot for me at my stage of development. Anyway, I'm not complaining, I kinda liked it, It just stopped me from training for a few days though.

Tomorrow I am going to spend some time figuring out how I am going to push on with my goal while allowing time for work development. I do this often and I find it really useful.

 

48 hours.

 

Once again thanks to those of you who continue to encourage me.

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Wohooo! :D Let's celebrate the 50 hours milestone!!! :D  :thumbsup:  :banana:

Haha, that banana can dance his ass off.

1 hour of muay thai. Did a lot of basic kicking, and then teeping the switch kick and following up with a switch knee. Very cool.

Had a funny interaction tonight with my partner. We were checking a kick and then throwing a right kick back with your partner taking the kick on their arms. He said to me 'kick me as hard as you can, you've gotta kick hard, so that you can learn properly, kick me with 100%'.

In my head I was thinking 'are you crazy? there is no way you want me to kick you as hard as I can'. Not because I'm a super hard kicker, but because I am 100kg and a fully grown man. So I kicked him with about 40%, and sure enough after two kicks he was like 'alright not that hard'.

As promised here is a video of me 'shadowboxing' I don't really want to post this, but I said I would when I reached 50 hours, so... here it is.

https://youtu.be/ikSbjp6xdj0

Next video will be posted when I reach 95kg bodyweight!

51 hours.

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Looks good man, those straight punches look crisp. Hahaha I kind of want to video myself shadowboxing now, never seen myself doing any training really.

Haha, thanks Tyler. It's embarrassing, but instructive. You should get somebody to film you training, just pay somebody 100baht to film you with your phone for 15 mins or something.

1 hour boxing tonight, just basic combos.

 

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Curious to see what happens with your weight now that you are doing the couch to 5k. I can't seem to stay under 78kg without running. Not sure if its just the increased muscle in my legs burning more calories or what. Does the trick for me though!

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Will keep you posted Tyler!

 

1 hr boxing

Squatted 105kg x 5 x 3

Benched 95kg x 4

 

First time benching in ages, was a bit of a struggle but only 10kg off my old pb, so not too bad

 

59 hours

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Yesterday did 1 hour of MT, which was mostly clinch work.

Today, I did 8 rounds on the bag, 3 rounds of shadow. A combination I have been working lately is jab, right straight to the body, left hook, right straight. I am trying to integrate changing the levels so to be unpredictable.

I then went and did standing shoulder press 60kg x 5 x 3 (5 reps for 3 sets).

62 hours

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45 mins boxing class. Then I did some bag rounds and did the third day of c25k.

 

Combo today was - double jab, right, left uppercut, left hook, right straight, weave, right, left, right, left hook, slip, left uppercut, right, left hook, right.

63.5 hours.

This was my biggest training week, maybe ever, with 8.5 hours of training time. Only 4hr45min of actual class though.

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Do you feel that this was such an intense workout week? Or are you already okay with upping the hours of training?

I've actually cut down on one class (which is in a gym that's pretty far away), but instead I'm going to a kinda-crossfit class that day. It's at a fitness gym, not martial arts one. So I find it extremely hard to NOT jump in fighting stance or shadow-box lightly in-between rounds :) :) I literally had to stop myself to do it, even if the song was a boxing song (lyrics going like "left hook right hook" and so on...) :) Fortunately we also did some punching on the pad, so I was giving my best there :D

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Do you feel that this was such an intense workout week? Or are you already okay with upping the hours of training?

I've actually cut down on one class (which is in a gym that's pretty far away), but instead I'm going to a kinda-crossfit class that day. It's at a fitness gym, not martial arts one. So I find it extremely hard to NOT jump in fighting stance or shadow-box lightly in-between rounds :) :) I literally had to stop myself to do it, even if the song was a boxing song (lyrics going like "left hook right hook" and so on...) :) Fortunately we also did some punching on the pad, so I was giving my best there :D

 Hey Micc

 

I didn't at the time, but I feel like I've paid the price this week.

Tuesday 1 hr MT, 30 mins running, 30 mins bench pressing. Was actually weaker than the week before :(

Tonight 1 hr MT.

This week has not been good for training. I picked up a freelance gig which I've had to work on after work hours and I had a date on monday :wub:

 

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Usually if you are feeling a little weaker, it just means you are pushing hard. Might be good you got a little extra rest this week. This week has been a serious grind for me. Hahaha surviving one session and day at a time!

Yeah, it was actually like 2 less reps on the same weight, so I think you could be right.

 

Keep it up Tyler! How many sessions do you get in generally in a week?

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Yeah, it was actually like 2 less reps on the same weight, so I think you could be right.

 

Keep it up Tyler! How many sessions do you get in generally in a week?

I do 9-10 2 hour sessions a week, and run 3-5 of the mornings. Really trying to run more, but it totally depends on my energy levels. I ended up completely skipping training both Friday and Saturday last week, needed more of a break mentally than physically I think. I was feeling a little down about taking time off initially (I feel guilty lol), but now I think it was the right choice. Looking forward to training tomorrow where I was dreading it last week lol.

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Hey Gavin, been off the forum for a bit so just catching up on your progress. Glad to see things are still progressing nicely! Great job in your video. Noticed that your ability to bend your knees is much better than mine. For some reason I struggle with that no matter what I'm doing.

 

Also, hope the date went well ! :)

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I've only done 3 hours of training over the last 2-3 weeks. Someone close to me passed away and the emotional stress and grief has been insane! Anyway, back to boxing Monday night. I bought a pair of 10 oz hayabusa gloves. Might post some pics in the glove thread.

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It's been harder than expected getting back into training after the break. After the funeral all I did for a week was work and sleep, and that stretched into two weeks. Anyway, I got three sessions in this week. One of the senior boxers has invited me to the advanced class, so I'll probably start doing that in a week or so, once I have some conditioning back.

I had to take the 10 oz gloves back as they didn't fit properly with wraps. I swapped them for 12 oz, even so they are quite tight. I can actually feel when I hit with my knuckles now. The feedback is good. Although my hands are taking a beating... I will switch between my 16s and 12s until my hands adjust.

Hope everyone's training is going well.

74.5 hours (I've added a bunch of hours at once from when I wasn't posting).

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Wanted to drop in and say I'm still training I just stopped logging as the forum is a bit inactive. Thinking of taking an amateur boxing match next year as my coach suggested it. All the best everyone.

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Wanted to drop in and say I'm still training I just stopped logging as the forum is a bit inactive. Thinking of taking an amateur boxing match next year as my coach suggested it. All the best everyone.

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