Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Gavin, as long as the goal will keep you motivated to move and not "sit in front of the TV" as you said, I'd advise you to stick to it. It might take longer, but it's a learning process. As long as you handle your schedule, you can do it. I work a full time job and train 6x a week, but I also have a part-time job from time to time that takes up around 5h a week. It's not much, I know, but I still manage around it to make my training schedule work. Uh, if you are ready to give up most of your social life ;)

And congrats on the weight loss! I finally managed to move a bit down on the scale, too :) It's just 1kg, but a firm 1kg-loss is better than nothing :)

I watched my first sparing video from last year a few days ago and I was like "nooo, is it me? it's me. nooo. It's so hilarious!!" But I'm not embarassed, because I think I made some progress during this year, technique-wise and even though my weight is exactly the same as last year, I think I look slimmer now. :) 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Gavin, as long as the goal will keep you motivated to move and not "sit in front of the TV" as you said, I'd advise you to stick to it. It might take longer, but it's a learning process. As long as you handle your schedule, you can do it. I work a full time job and train 6x a week, but I also have a part-time job from time to time that takes up around 5h a week. It's not much, I know, but I still manage around it to make my training schedule work. Uh, if you are ready to give up most of your social life ;)

I wouldn't give up on it all together, but just rearrange it around your new work life, and be prepared for it to take longer. I just quoted Micc because I thought it was spot on.  :smile:

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't think you should give up. Goals are there to give you something difficult to strive towards, not necessarily just so you can accomplish something. Sometimes falling short of a goal is more helpful than succeeding (it can give you added motivation for the next shot). I say stick with your plan, and see where it gets you. If you don't make it in your desired time frame, just keep on rolling until you hit your mark. Then set a new goal and try again! We don't improve without falling, and only truly fail if we quit.

 

On a side note, doing something you enjoy outside of work will often make you better AT work. You don't have to be a professional fighter to enjoy the workouts. You will be more relaxed and hopefully less overwhelmed when things do get crazy at work. I dove head first into my last job and its literally the only thing I had in my life. If things were stressful or bad there, I couldn't escape it. It ended very very poorly lol. But I learned from it and whenever I do go back, I am going to try my best to use moderation. Your career is always going to be a part of your life but you've gotta have other stuff outside of that that keeps you sane as well :)

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Gavin, as long as the goal will keep you motivated to move and not "sit in front of the TV" as you said, I'd advise you to stick to it. It might take longer, but it's a learning process. As long as you handle your schedule, you can do it. I work a full time job and train 6x a week, but I also have a part-time job from time to time that takes up around 5h a week. It's not much, I know, but I still manage around it to make my training schedule work. Uh, if you are ready to give up most of your social life ;)

And congrats on the weight loss! I finally managed to move a bit down on the scale, too :) It's just 1kg, but a firm 1kg-loss is better than nothing :)

I watched my first sparing video from last year a few days ago and I was like "nooo, is it me? it's me. nooo. It's so hilarious!!" But I'm not embarassed, because I think I made some progress during this year, technique-wise and even though my weight is exactly the same as last year, I think I look slimmer now. :) 

 

Hey Micc, that's great. I think 1kg makes a difference. Imagine having to do a whole workout while holding a 1kg dumbbell. It would be difficult, huh?

 

I wouldn't give up on it all together, but just rearrange it around your new work life, and be prepared for it to take longer. I just quoted Micc because I thought it was spot on.  :smile:

 

Thank you mate.

I don't think you should give up. Goals are there to give you something difficult to strive towards, not necessarily just so you can accomplish something. Sometimes falling short of a goal is more helpful than succeeding (it can give you added motivation for the next shot). I say stick with your plan, and see where it gets you. If you don't make it in your desired time frame, just keep on rolling until you hit your mark. Then set a new goal and try again! We don't improve without falling, and only truly fail if we quit.

 

On a side note, doing something you enjoy outside of work will often make you better AT work. You don't have to be a professional fighter to enjoy the workouts. You will be more relaxed and hopefully less overwhelmed when things do get crazy at work. I dove head first into my last job and its literally the only thing I had in my life. If things were stressful or bad there, I couldn't escape it. It ended very very poorly lol. But I learned from it and whenever I do go back, I am going to try my best to use moderation. Your career is always going to be a part of your life but you've gotta have other stuff outside of that that keeps you sane as well :)

 

Thank you Tyler. I am going to continue with my original goal, because like you said just by aiming for it I will be more successful than if I give up.

 

On wednesday I did a boxing class and it was kinda brutal (for me) from a conditioning aspect. We did 300 lunges, 300 pushups and 100 squats interspersed between 800 punches. I still can't walk properly and it's Saturday. I was in awe of people who just went straight into the next class, because I was shattered by the end of it. I tried to run across a street and just ending up half walking.

The trainer explained that this isn't really a lot of lunges, and I agree, but it was a lot for me at my stage of development. Anyway, I'm not complaining, I kinda liked it, It just stopped me from training for a few days though.

Tomorrow I am going to spend some time figuring out how I am going to push on with my goal while allowing time for work development. I do this often and I find it really useful.

 

48 hours.

 

Once again thanks to those of you who continue to encourage me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Wohooo! :D Let's celebrate the 50 hours milestone!!! :D  :thumbsup:  :banana:

Haha, that banana can dance his ass off.

1 hour of muay thai. Did a lot of basic kicking, and then teeping the switch kick and following up with a switch knee. Very cool.

Had a funny interaction tonight with my partner. We were checking a kick and then throwing a right kick back with your partner taking the kick on their arms. He said to me 'kick me as hard as you can, you've gotta kick hard, so that you can learn properly, kick me with 100%'.

In my head I was thinking 'are you crazy? there is no way you want me to kick you as hard as I can'. Not because I'm a super hard kicker, but because I am 100kg and a fully grown man. So I kicked him with about 40%, and sure enough after two kicks he was like 'alright not that hard'.

As promised here is a video of me 'shadowboxing' I don't really want to post this, but I said I would when I reached 50 hours, so... here it is.

https://youtu.be/ikSbjp6xdj0

Next video will be posted when I reach 95kg bodyweight!

51 hours.

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Looks good man, those straight punches look crisp. Hahaha I kind of want to video myself shadowboxing now, never seen myself doing any training really.

Haha, thanks Tyler. It's embarrassing, but instructive. You should get somebody to film you training, just pay somebody 100baht to film you with your phone for 15 mins or something.

1 hour boxing tonight, just basic combos.

 

52hrs

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Curious to see what happens with your weight now that you are doing the couch to 5k. I can't seem to stay under 78kg without running. Not sure if its just the increased muscle in my legs burning more calories or what. Does the trick for me though!

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Will keep you posted Tyler!

 

1 hr boxing

Squatted 105kg x 5 x 3

Benched 95kg x 4

 

First time benching in ages, was a bit of a struggle but only 10kg off my old pb, so not too bad

 

59 hours

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yesterday did 1 hour of MT, which was mostly clinch work.

Today, I did 8 rounds on the bag, 3 rounds of shadow. A combination I have been working lately is jab, right straight to the body, left hook, right straight. I am trying to integrate changing the levels so to be unpredictable.

I then went and did standing shoulder press 60kg x 5 x 3 (5 reps for 3 sets).

62 hours

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

45 mins boxing class. Then I did some bag rounds and did the third day of c25k.

 

Combo today was - double jab, right, left uppercut, left hook, right straight, weave, right, left, right, left hook, slip, left uppercut, right, left hook, right.

63.5 hours.

This was my biggest training week, maybe ever, with 8.5 hours of training time. Only 4hr45min of actual class though.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Do you feel that this was such an intense workout week? Or are you already okay with upping the hours of training?

I've actually cut down on one class (which is in a gym that's pretty far away), but instead I'm going to a kinda-crossfit class that day. It's at a fitness gym, not martial arts one. So I find it extremely hard to NOT jump in fighting stance or shadow-box lightly in-between rounds :) :) I literally had to stop myself to do it, even if the song was a boxing song (lyrics going like "left hook right hook" and so on...) :) Fortunately we also did some punching on the pad, so I was giving my best there :D

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Do you feel that this was such an intense workout week? Or are you already okay with upping the hours of training?

I've actually cut down on one class (which is in a gym that's pretty far away), but instead I'm going to a kinda-crossfit class that day. It's at a fitness gym, not martial arts one. So I find it extremely hard to NOT jump in fighting stance or shadow-box lightly in-between rounds :) :) I literally had to stop myself to do it, even if the song was a boxing song (lyrics going like "left hook right hook" and so on...) :) Fortunately we also did some punching on the pad, so I was giving my best there :D

 Hey Micc

 

I didn't at the time, but I feel like I've paid the price this week.

Tuesday 1 hr MT, 30 mins running, 30 mins bench pressing. Was actually weaker than the week before :(

Tonight 1 hr MT.

This week has not been good for training. I picked up a freelance gig which I've had to work on after work hours and I had a date on monday :wub:

 

66.5hrs

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Usually if you are feeling a little weaker, it just means you are pushing hard. Might be good you got a little extra rest this week. This week has been a serious grind for me. Hahaha surviving one session and day at a time!

Yeah, it was actually like 2 less reps on the same weight, so I think you could be right.

 

Keep it up Tyler! How many sessions do you get in generally in a week?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah, it was actually like 2 less reps on the same weight, so I think you could be right.

 

Keep it up Tyler! How many sessions do you get in generally in a week?

I do 9-10 2 hour sessions a week, and run 3-5 of the mornings. Really trying to run more, but it totally depends on my energy levels. I ended up completely skipping training both Friday and Saturday last week, needed more of a break mentally than physically I think. I was feeling a little down about taking time off initially (I feel guilty lol), but now I think it was the right choice. Looking forward to training tomorrow where I was dreading it last week lol.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

Hey Gavin, been off the forum for a bit so just catching up on your progress. Glad to see things are still progressing nicely! Great job in your video. Noticed that your ability to bend your knees is much better than mine. For some reason I struggle with that no matter what I'm doing.

 

Also, hope the date went well ! :)

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've only done 3 hours of training over the last 2-3 weeks. Someone close to me passed away and the emotional stress and grief has been insane! Anyway, back to boxing Monday night. I bought a pair of 10 oz hayabusa gloves. Might post some pics in the glove thread.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

It's been harder than expected getting back into training after the break. After the funeral all I did for a week was work and sleep, and that stretched into two weeks. Anyway, I got three sessions in this week. One of the senior boxers has invited me to the advanced class, so I'll probably start doing that in a week or so, once I have some conditioning back.

I had to take the 10 oz gloves back as they didn't fit properly with wraps. I swapped them for 12 oz, even so they are quite tight. I can actually feel when I hit with my knuckles now. The feedback is good. Although my hands are taking a beating... I will switch between my 16s and 12s until my hands adjust.

Hope everyone's training is going well.

74.5 hours (I've added a bunch of hours at once from when I wasn't posting).

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

Wanted to drop in and say I'm still training I just stopped logging as the forum is a bit inactive. Thinking of taking an amateur boxing match next year as my coach suggested it. All the best everyone.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wanted to drop in and say I'm still training I just stopped logging as the forum is a bit inactive. Thinking of taking an amateur boxing match next year as my coach suggested it. All the best everyone.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Most Recent Topics

  • Latest Comments

    • Just very briefly I want to take up one of the most interesting aspects of the fighting art of Thailand's traditional Muay Thai, an aspect that really cues for me how I watch fights and weigh the skills of fighters. Managing distance. Many people watch "strikes" and look for "points", but there is an under-fabric to strikes, a kind of landscape of them, no less than how a topography will influence how a battle is fought between armies. Even the most practiced strikes rise and fall to opportunity, and in Muay Thai a significant determination of opportunity is distance. Above is a quick edit of Sylvie's last fight up in Buriram, bringing out all the significant moments of engagement, telling the story in about a minute. (The full fight should be up in a few weeks with Sylvie's commentary, as usual.) I'm going to start with Entertainment Muay Thai as presenting an negative can often be the best way to bring out a positive. Entertainment Muay Thai (and there are many versions of it, so we have to be very broad here), is largely principled by eliminating the importance of distance. What is sought, again being very broad, is a more or less continuous trading in the pocket. The quest is for an easy to follow, by the casual eye, "action". Everything is about the distance of the pocket. Setting up outside of the pocket can be regarded as anti-action (so, if you do, you should regularly charge into the pocket...and trade). And fighting through the pocket, to clinch range, is also devalued by very quick clinch breaks, scoring biases (changing traditional aesthetics). Clinch, which historically is featured in some of the most technical fighting of the sport, in Entertainment Muay Thai is more and more understood as a stall of the main goal. Pocket trading. Much of the art of Muay Thai is actually organized around all those distances that border "the pocket", controlling distance through length, or through grappling. In this fight Sylvie is giving up between 8-10 kgs (perhaps more than 20% of her body weight). Now, imagine it being fought under Entertainment aesthetics. What would it be if she just stood in the pocket, bit down, and just traded over and over with Phetnamwan? Would there be any point of such a fight? Yet, as the Golden Age legend Hippy Singmanee once said when criticizing hyper-aggressive, pocket-trading Entertainment Muay Thai, "Muay Thai is the art where small can beat big." Hippy was one of the most renown undersized fighters of the Golden Era. He knows of what he speaks. This fight, in the broad brush, illustrates some of that. More and more we've come to realize that as traditional Muay Thai evaporates slowly from the urban stadia, the only traditional Muay Thai still being regularly fought is in the provinces of the country. It is there that fights are scored in keeping with the art, and fighters retain the all around, multi-distance skills that make that art happen. Clinch is allowed to unfold. Narrative fight arcs are told as principle to scoring. Ryan, a knowledgeable commenter on Twitter and a very good writer on the sport, right away noticed how the ref let clinch flow. You can see some of our discussion there. I recall a conversation I overheard when attending the funeral of the legend Namkabuan in Nongki. It was the passing of one of the greatest who ever fought. During the day-before cremation a casual conversation arose between other legends of the sport, and very experienced news reporters, people who had been a part of it for decades. One of them insisted, Muay Thai no longer existed in Thailand. Others knowingly nodded their heads. But a Muay Siam reporter objected. "No...it still lives in the provinces." And the others agreed. It still was there. We in the English speaking world tend to think the substance of something is what has been presented to us. The Muay Thai of Bangkok is the real Muay Thai of Thailand because that is what we see...and, historically, many decades ago, it did represent the highest skills of the country. But what largely remains unseen is that more and more of the sport is being designed for our eyes. It is less and less for Thais, and more and more for "us", so we can become quite disconnected from what is real and authentic in a cultural, and even efficacy sense. There rhythms and values of provincial Muay Thai, as it is fought, coached and reffed, are part of the rich authenticity of the sport which falls into the shadows when we just look at what is being shown to "us". This fight, how it is fought, shows "the art of where small can beat big", and it shows why. It's through the control of distance. If you are small you just cannot stand at range. You either have to explore the bubble outside of the pocket, too far, or at its edges, and fight your way in to score...or, you collapse the pocket, smother the strikes, and possess the skill to control a much larger bodied opponent. Clinch, historically, is kryptonite to the striker. Muay Maat vs Muay Khao battles are legendary in the sport.  Classic. Who is going to impose the distance which is best for them? It's a battle of distances. And, for this reason, Muay Maat fighters of the past were not experts in trading in the pocket. They were experts in managing clinch fighters, or even high level clinch fighters themselves...and they were experts at hunting down evasive femeu counterfighters as well. Muay Maat fighters were strong. They had to have so many tools in their tool box. In versions of the sport where both fighters are forced to "stand and bang" repeatedly, we have been taken quite far from the glories of Thailand's Muay Thai fighters, and that is because Muay Thai is an art of distance control. This goes to a deeper point about the sport. It isn't really a "sport" in the International, rationalist idea of a sport. Muay Thai is culture. It is Thai culture. Thousands and thousands of fights occur on temple grounds, far from Western eyes. It has grown up within the culture, but also expressive of that culture. And it is a culture unto itself. The more we try to extract from this rich fabric some kind of abstract "rule set" and "collection of techniques" that can be used in other cultures, expressing their values, favoring their fighters, the more we lose the complex art of what Muay Thai is...and in the bigger sense move away from the value it has to the entire world. It's value is that it has a very highly developed perspective on distance management and on aggression. It has lessons upon lessons to teach in techniques of control and fight winning, woven into the DNA of its traditional aesthetics. And these techniques embody the values of the culture. It's all of one cloth. Sylvie has chosen the path less traveled. She's fought like no other Westerner in history (a record 271 times as a pro), and she has devoted herself to the lessor style, the art of Muay Khao and clinch fighting. There are very, very few women, even Thai women, who have seriously developed this branch of the art in the way that she has. And she's done it as a 100 lb fighter, taking on great size disparities as she fights. Because Muay Thai is "the art where small can beat big" there is a long tradition of great, dominant fighters fighting top fighters well above their weight, and developing their in style the capacity to beat them. Fighting up is Muay Thai. Sylvie's entire quest has been to value what may not even be commercially valued at this time, the aspects of the art which point to its greater meaning & capacity. The narrative of scoring, the control of distance, the management of striking through clinch, in the heritage of what it has been. I'm not saying that this is the only way to fight, or that Entertainment Muay Thai has no value for the art and sport. It's not, and it does. But, we should also be mindful of the completeness and complexity of Muay Thai, and the ways that those qualities can be put at risk, as the desire to internationalize it and foreign values become more and more part of its purpose. If we love what we discover when we come to Thailand, we should fight to preserve and embrace the roots of Muay Thai, and the honored aspects of the culture/s which produced it. photos: Khaendong, Buriram, Thailand (temple grounds)    
    • Hi, this might be out of the normal topic, but I thought you all might be interested in a book-- Children of the Neon Bamboo-- that has a really cool Martial Arts instructor character who set up an early Muy Thai gym south of Miami in the 1980s. He's a really cool character who drives the plot, and there historically accurate allusions to 1980s martial arts culture. However, the main thrust is more about nostalgia and friendships.    Can we do links? Childrenoftheneonbamboo.com Children of the Neon Bamboo: B. Glynn Kimmey: 9798988054115: Amazon.com: Movies & TV      
    • I really appreciate your wave patterns analogy; it applies to a lot of interactions. 
  • The Latest From Open Topics Forum

    • Hi, this might be out of the normal topic, but I thought you all might be interested in a book-- Children of the Neon Bamboo-- that has a really cool Martial Arts instructor character who set up an early Muy Thai gym south of Miami in the 1980s. He's a really cool character who drives the plot, and there historically accurate allusions to 1980s martial arts culture. However, the main thrust is more about nostalgia and friendships.    Can we do links? Childrenoftheneonbamboo.com Children of the Neon Bamboo: B. Glynn Kimmey: 9798988054115: Amazon.com: Movies & TV      
    • Davince Resolve is a great place to start. 
    • I see that this thread is from three years ago, and I hope your journey with Muay Thai and mental health has evolved positively during this time. It's fascinating to revisit these discussions and reflect on how our understanding of such topics can grow. The connection between training and mental health is intricate, as you've pointed out. Finding the right balance between pushing yourself and self-care is a continuous learning process. If you've been exploring various avenues for managing mood-related issues over these years, you might want to revisit the topic of mental health resources. One such resource is The UK Medical Cannabis Card, which can provide insights into alternative treatments.
    • Phetjeeja fought Anissa Meksen for a ONE FC interim atomweight kickboxing title 12/22/2023. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu92S6-V5y0&ab_channel=ONEChampionship Fight starts at 45:08 Phetjeeja won on points. Not being able to clinch really handicapped her. I was afraid the ref was going to start deducting points for clinch fouls.   
    • Earlier this year I wrote a couple of sociology essays that dealt directly with Muay Thai, drawing on Sylvie's journalism and discussions on the podcast to do so. I thought I'd put them up here in case they were of any interest, rather than locking them away with the intention to perfectly rewrite them 'some day'. There's not really many novel insights of my own, rather it's more just pulling together existing literature with some of the von Duuglus-Ittu's work, which I think is criminally underutilised in academic discussions of MT. The first, 'Some meanings of muay' was written for an ideology/sosciology of knowledge paper, and is an overly long, somewhat grindy attempt to give a combined historical, institutional, and situated study of major cultural meanings of Muay Thai as a form of strength. The second paper, 'the fighter's heart' was written for a qualitative analysis course, and makes extensive use of interviews and podcast discussions to talk about some ways in which the gendered/sexed body is described/deployed within Muay Thai. There's plenty of issues with both, and they're not what I'd write today, and I'm learning to realise that's fine! some meanings of muay.docx The fighter's heart.docx
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      1.3k
    • Total Posts
      10.9k
×
×
  • Create New...