Persistent Shin Soreness After 5 Days of Hot Water Massage - Question For Sylvie

[Joelxthewolf]

I fought 7 days ago against a VERY strong kicker, he was about 10 lbs heavier than I am. I blocked a lot and after the fight, iced both shins for 48 hr, after that hit water massage 2 or 3 times a day, after that rub on namman muay or tiger balm. I even use compression wraps after that.. There's still fluid under my skin and shin soreness. See a doctor or any other healing advice, Sylvie? Much appreciated. 

Edited December 13, 2021 by Joelxthewolf
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[Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu]

Hi. The way that you deal with this at this point depends on whether it is a "knot" (hard bump) or a pocket or dent with fluid. Can you take a photo of it and attach it in the reply? 

Also, I assume you are not kicking on it yet, right? 

[Joelxthewolf]

43 minutes ago, Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu said:

Hi. The way that you deal with this at this point depends on whether it is a "knot" (hard bump) or a pocket or dent with fluid. Can you take a photo of it and attach it in the reply? 

Also, I assume you are not kicking on it yet, right? 

I have a knot on my right shin and a dent with fluid below. On my left shin,  dent with fluid. No kicking correct. Everything else.

[Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu]

That knot needs more pressure during the draining with the hot water. The way you press it out can be tricky because doing it yourself might not be aggressive enough. Like trying to massage yourself or clean out a painful cut, we kind of pull back due to the pain, whereas having someone else help press it... well, someone else can be less "kind" haha. My trainer in Chiang Mai helped me sometimes, it was rough but it was necessary. Are you in Thailand? 

[Joelxthewolf]

53 minutes ago, Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu said:

That knot needs more pressure during the draining with the hot water. The way you press it out can be tricky because doing it yourself might not be aggressive enough. Like trying to massage yourself or clean out a painful cut, we kind of pull back due to the pain, whereas having someone else help press it... well, someone else can be less "kind" haha. My trainer in Chiang Mai helped me sometimes, it was rough but it was necessary. Are you in Thailand? 

Yes I train at Sit-Thailand gym. I'll have to ask someone to painfully massage it down i guess.

[Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu]

Just now, Joelxthewolf said:

Yes I train at Sit-Thailand gym. I'll have to ask someone to painfully massage it down i guess.

I thought I recognized you off your style of tattoos, haha. Kru Thailand will be able to help. It's going to suck, but it will improve quickly after the mass is broken down. Leave the one that's  a pocket alone, just use oil on that.

Congratulations on your fight as well.

[Joelxthewolf]

Oh you saw! Thanks! I'll ask him to press it out 

[Joelxthewolf]

Update: they're getting a little better. Only thing to drain fluid is laying upside down on my couch, feet up on the wall so it runs down my legs into my bladder. I looked up medical videos on leg adema. 

[Tom Riddle]

On 12/13/2021 at 2:38 AM, Joelxthewolf said:

I fought 7 days ago against a VERY strong kicker, he was about 10 lbs heavier than I am. I blocked a lot and after the fight, iced both shins for 48 hr, after that hit water massage 2 or 3 times a day, after that rub on namman muay or tiger balm. I even use compression wraps after that.. There's still fluid under my skin and shin soreness. See a doctor or any other healing advice, Sylvie? Much appreciated. 

In the early phase, remember PRICE:

P = Protection from further damage
R = Rest to avoid prolonging irritation
I = Ice (cold) for controlling pain, bleeding, and edema
C = Compression for support and controlling swelling
E = Elevation for decreasing bleeding and edema

[Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu]

On 12/15/2021 at 11:42 PM, Joelxthewolf said:

Update: they're getting a little better. Only thing to drain fluid is laying upside down on my couch, feet up on the wall so it runs down my legs into my bladder. I looked up medical videos on leg adema. 

How are they now?

[Joelxthewolf]

On 12/21/2021 at 9:54 AM, Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu said:

How are they now?

Thanks for asking. My left shin still has a bubble of fluid, shin not too sore. Right shin is even better, hardly and fluid and 1/10 for soreness. Little hard bumps on the shin bones still. I try to rub a glass bottle down them daily to smooth it out.

[Joelxthewolf]

Any idea how I can get rid of the fluid on my shin?

[Joelxthewolf]

Hi, this is an old thread but I'm still having swelling in my shin. I went to a doctor and they just gave me an ultrasound to help heal the bone. Randomly, the bone will be sore and throb, like this morning and last Sunday, but for months it wasn't sore at all, but fluid was still present. I'm scared it's forever f**ked up.

[Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu]

On 2/27/2022 at 10:07 AM, Joelxthewolf said:

Hi, this is an old thread but I'm still having swelling in my shin. I went to a doctor and they just gave me an ultrasound to help heal the bone. Randomly, the bone will be sore and throb, like this morning and last Sunday, but for months it wasn't sore at all, but fluid was still present. I'm scared it's forever f**ked up.

Did the doctor do any kind of imaging to see if there's a fracture? 

I do remember my bones randomly hurting, a deep throbbing, months after an injury to them. I have dimples and bumps all along the bones in both shins that you can feel when you press and run your finger down the length of them. Those definitely hurt when they were getting there, but I don't feel my shins almost at all anymore. The fluid is a bit concerning to me, just in that I can't remember that being a thing that I dealt with for a long time after getting the lumps out. That doesn't mean I didn't have it, I just don't remember it. I also fought ALL THE TIME, so maybe I didn't know where the swelling was coming from. Is it swollen all the time or it comes and goes? Is there a coin-sized center spot or soft spot that you can locate against the bone?