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Hey guys im new, 

I have a technique question. there at alot of different voices on the correct kicking technique, e.g. i saw samart saying.. always straight leg (both legs) and pull the kicking leg bag quicker. and I've seen one with singdam saying to bend the knees slightly (to not over flex the knees??), to put myself on the spot.. ive provided a video of me kicking a bag. i do have alot of other questions but i thought i'd take the plunge . 

thanks.

 

john. 

 

 

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Welcome!

I'm a new as well, to Muay Thai in general and specifically the forums and community here (been awesome so far!)

Thank you for posting something we can learn from, excited to see what the discussion brings!

P.S. super jealous you have something you can kick at the house 😆

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My experience about learning side kicks/roundhouse kicks so far is the following:

- there are several different kinds of side kicks
- everywhere it is trained a little different (referring to first point), every Kru is focussing of different details; try to figure out what's working best for you

What each training style or way of explanation has in common is
- to twist the foot you're standing on as much as possible in order to open your hip
- to swing the arm on the kicking leg's side in order to keep balance or even to keep distance to your opponent

What I do at least when training is to use even the shoulder, so to make the whole upper body turn, hip and shoulder stay in line.
Basically it's all just a question of muscle chains and how you can activate them as fast as possible.

 

 

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16 hours ago, Mitchell said:

Hey John!

I found this resource while going through the site here a bit: https://8limbsus.com/muay-thai-thailand/golden-kick-how-to-improve-your-thai-kick

Tooooons to munch on, graphics and a lot of videos as well. That "Wall Kick Exercise" seemed like a really good way to keep yourself from over arching the kick. 

Cheers mate 👍 😎

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On 4/8/2020 at 2:17 PM, Barbara_K said:

My experience about learning side kicks/roundhouse kicks so far is the following:

- there are several different kinds of side kicks
- everywhere it is trained a little different (referring to first point), every Kru is focussing of different details; try to figure out what's working best for you

What each training style or way of explanation has in common is
- to twist the foot you're standing on as much as possible in order to open your hip
- to swing the arm on the kicking leg's side in order to keep balance or even to keep distance to your opponent

What I do at least when training is to use even the shoulder, so to make the whole upper body turn, hip and shoulder stay in line.
Basically it's all just a question of muscle chains and how you can activate them as fast as possible.

 

 

Got a little notepad and i wrote all that down. Cheers Barbara 🤗

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Your kick looks to be developing nicely - and you've had plenty of good advice so far. I would just like to add this:

What I personally like for my students is for them to rise up on their toe as they kick. You are not as stable as you would be flat footed at first, but coming up on your toe will make the pivot of the foot that you're currently doing easier, and it also means that your leg doesn't have to stretch so far to get up to the target. It isn't NECESSARY to stand high on your toe in order to kick and be effective, but I personally like it for maximising power.

What Sylvie calls 'the golden kick' is how I was taught by my coach (he was a fighter from around that time period) and generally how British fighters are taught. It's in my view the most optimum way to kick, but you will find yourself catching elbows in sparring a lot at first. You'll get better at it with time, but it's also a good idea to learn a wider arc to specifically kick into the arm, because if you're sparring or fighting and you keep kicking into the elbow for whatever reason, aiming at the arm itself should stop that. That way you don't lose one of your main weapons due to fear of damaging your foot.

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Well, I must have missed that article on Sylvie's and Kevin's "golden kick". Thanks for that!
I just got to experience myself, that kicks coming with an upwards movement pointing through towards the shoulder are caught quite easily (well, I might be too slow, too).
But I had the chance to train with someone more experienced and he used the whole movement of kick and returning to bring out his leg before I could catch it - but his kick was coming from a 90° angle and going parallel to the ground, so no upwards movement.

Might be not as hard, but though not so easy to catch.

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