Recommended Muay Mat Style Gyms in Thailand
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By Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu · Posted
To the above I would add, this is the enormous difference between transmitting the form of the ring sport, that is the living practices of (actual) training and (actual) fighting, including so much of its embedded social context...and simply trying to transmit its "techniques", as if a dead script of a forgotten language. The more we move towards the transmission of "techniques", the more we are heading towards the ossification (and likely ideologically, and unrealistically imbued "construction") of an art. Not "techniques". -
By Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu · Posted
Watched Surviving Bokator: A story of the attempt to preserve Cambodian Bokator, decimated by the Khmer Rouge genocide. Fascinating to see the generational challenge as the "Grand Master" (who had granted himself the status of "Gold" Grand Master having mastered "10,000 techniques") experienced the peel off of his young students who saw the future of the art with training foreigners. What is so striking is how fragmented and strained the "dignity" of the art is, hanging on the threads of only a few lineages, where recognition and opportunity arrives in only small islands of hope. When an art is NOT a living ring sport, when techniques become somewhat holy, somewhat calling-back re-enactments rather than living answers to resistant fighting, it puts the question of transmission into deep social conflict. And, throughout, quietly, you can feel the ideological component of a struggle against Thailand's Muay Thai as the Master often nonchalantly (and fairly unrealistically) defeats versions of neck grabbing, saying at one point "Why lose two hands?" (if I remember). I feel somewhat saddened to see a fighting art caricatured in this way, struggling for recognition but caught up in very real National identities, especially in a culture that went through a horrific genocide that sought to erase its past. I don't really want to review the film, other than to say that it's best moments were in the countryside where the rural teachers were, and with the kids, the students, idealistically and passionately committing themselves to the art. And...in a melancholy way, the revelation of the Grand Master's psychology, seeking to justify his life before a dead father who rejected the art. I wanted to learn something about Preservation itself, since we are always engaged with this, not only from how its is being done in other circumstances, but also to see how a film works to preserve. I can only say that it is a blessing that Thailand's Muay Thai is so very far from this state of fragmentation and forgetting...though understanding that Bokator is much more akin to perhaps Thailand's Muay Boran codifications. -
By Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu · Posted
This basketball commentary can EASILY be a primary insight into what is wrong with a lot of Muay Thai, and what set out the great Golden Age fighters of Thailand, from today. Everyone is "technique" training, trying to crib, drill and copy in Muay Thai. In kaimuay culture the higher level capacities of fighters were made through play, and fighting.
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Hi all, Does anyone know of any suppliers for blanks (Plain items to design and print a logo on) that are a good quality? Or put me in the right direction? thanks all
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The first fight between Poot Lorlek and Posai Sittiboonlert was recently uploaded to youtube. Posai is one of the earliest great Muay Khao fighters and influential to Dieselnoi, but there's very little footage of him. Poot is one of the GOATs and one of Posai's best wins, it's really cool to see how Posai's style looked against another elite fighter.
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By FuckedElbow-Muay · Posted
Yeah, this is certainly possible. Thanks! I just like the idea of a training camp pre-fight because of focus and getting more "locked in".. Do you know of any high level gyms in europe you would recommend? -
You could just pick a high-level gym in a European city, just live and train there for however long you want (a month?). Lots of gyms have morning and evening classes.
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By FuckedElbow-Muay · Posted
Hi, i have a general question concerning Muay-Thai training camps, are there any serious ones in Europe at all? I know there are some for kickboxing in the Netherlands, but that's not interesting to me or what i aim for. I have found some regarding Muay-Thai in google searches, but what iv'e found seem to be only "retreats" with Muay-Thai on a level compareable to fitness-boxing, yoga or mindfullness.. So what i look for, but can't seem to find anywhere, are camps similar to those in Thailand. Grueling, high-intensity workouts with trainers who have actually fought and don't just do this as a hobby/fitness regime. A place where you can actually grow, improve technique and build strength and gas-tank with high intensity, not a vacation... No hate whatsoever to those who do fitness-boxing and attend retreats like these, i just find it VERY ODD that there ain't any training camps like those in Thailand out there, or perhaps i haven't looked good enough?.. Appericiate all responses, thank you!
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