How to Counter a Knee Bar / Guard in the clinch?????

[MitchRJ]

Hi guys

i was hoping you could tell me a couple of techniques to counter a position i keep finding myself in while clinching. my sparring partners keep putting there shin and knee horizontally across the tops of my hips pushing with there hip and pulling down on my neck which brakes my posture (not sure what this is called maybe "Knee Bar or Knee Guard) and stops me from getting back into the clinch and a ref would eventually brake us which is not what i want as a Muay Khao fighter.

do you know of any sweeps or counters to this as i cant seem to find anything online. only one i am aware of is potentially skipping your hip and leg back to try and knee over the top but its not great especially if someone has really broken your posture.

Thanks!

[LengLeng]

10 hours ago, MitchRJ said:

Hi guys

i was hoping you could tell me a couple of techniques to counter a position i keep finding myself in while clinching. my sparring partners keep putting there shin and knee horizontally across the tops of my hips pushing with there hip and pulling down on my neck which brakes my posture (not sure what this is called maybe "Knee Bar or Knee Guard) and stops me from getting back into the clinch and a ref would eventually brake us which is not what i want as a Muay Khao fighter.

do you know of any sweeps or counters to this as i cant seem to find anything online. only one i am aware of is potentially skipping your hip and leg back to try and knee over the top but its not great especially if someone has really broken your posture.

Thanks!

Hi! It's sometimes called "the great Wall of China" and its super annoying and Sylvie has written great advice on how to counter it here: https://8limbsus.com/muay-thai-technique/sylvies-tips-counter-to-the-wall-of-china-block-and-more

In Myanmar Lethwei they use the same movement as a kick. Instead of simply using it as a block/shield they push through the leg using hip power so the shin actively pushes the opponent away (rather explosive movemen). It's very difficult to learn, but a great technique and kick to be used at a short distance. It hurts a lot and can be used the same way you use a push kick to create distance. Not sure if it is used in muay thai, but I would assume it's legal and when I train in Thailand next time I definitely want to use it.