Secrets to the Study of Any Strike - The Formula for Force

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

 I'm going to leave this here for maybe further elaboration and comment. It's compelling to think about any striking technique in these two terms, either the acceleration created (usually through the storing of energy in tendons, ligaments and muscle, which comes from fixing one's point on the ground), or through the transportation of mass (which usually involves involving a greater portion of body weight in that acceleration. There is so much in this it is tough to unpack, but advisments like those of Thai Krus that say you must step on every single technique (in the Library Kru Thailan, and Rambaa) is about mass. Discussions about the Thai Golden Kick, like on this forum, are really about the subtle techniques of creating both acceleration and mass involvement.

And then you can reach all the way back into Daoist energy imaginations of Yin and Yang, connecting to Earth energy, and coming to release it as Yang, how the torsions of the body, and it's relaxation (which allows parts to connect together, energy to transmit), work to deliver the Earth through accelerations. The full span of this analysis can really be immense.

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[Jeremy Stewart]

My Kru talks a lot about this. As he puts it, those little Thai blokes are masters of it, ever wondered how 55kg man can kick like a 100kg? This is force=mass×velocity. He can spend a lot of time talking about it.

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

49 minutes ago, Jeremy Stewart said:

ever wondered how 55kg man can kick like a 100kg?

Yes, this exactly. Master K, Sylvie's original instructor back in the New Jersey basement days, a 70 year old Thai man, used to say: "Don't hit with 5 lbs (your fist), hit with 100 lbs!" You get the same thing with boxers who "hit above their weight" or have "natural power". It's from all the parts lining up together, and communicating energy.

[SPACEDOODLE]

I wonder if Power generation has something to do with it as opposed to Force. For instance, power is how much potential energy is converted to kinetic energy per unit of time. 

6 hours ago, Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu said:

acceleration created (usually through the storing of energy in tendons, ligaments and muscle, which comes from fixing one's point on the ground

Perhaps the stored energy in the muscles, tendons, and ligaments can be converted to kinetic energy with varying degrees of intensity. This would relate back to force in terms of increasing acceleration would yield higher changes in velocity of the same unit of time. The higher the velocity, the higher the kinetic energy. The higher the kinetic energy, the larger the power generation from a relaxed arm to a fully extended jab or relaxed leg to a fully extended teep. 

 

Perhaps the key to all of this is knowing where the difference in power generation would be between tense muscles, hips, legs versus relaxed muscles, hips, and legs. And that's about as far as my thought process can take me, and leaves me with questions: does a relaxed leg on the mat generate more power upon rotation than the hip or shoulder? Or can the hip generate it's own power regardless of foot rotation?

 

Does my thought process make sense? Or am I missing the point? 

[Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu]

9 minutes ago, SPACEDOODLE said:

does a relaxed leg on the mat generate more power upon rotation than the hip or shoulder? Or can the hip generate it's own power regardless of foot rotation?

I like all your thoughts. I think there is a fundamental kinetic relationship between a grounded foot, which creates a leverage point, and the ability to store energy through torquing/tension, that come by virtue of that grounded foot (feet). There are other ways of creating tension (storing energy to be released) in a more localized sense, without such a direct relationship to that grounding, I imagine, but ultimately it seems to come back to that grounding, fixing the point. Where there is relaxation, where there is tensioning/torquing, seems to be all the subtleness of a technique, if I understand your question or idea here.