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On 4/27/2022 at 7:34 AM, Joseph Arthur De Gonzo said:
I guess you're partner is taller than you, if that's the case. Work on getting very close to him, getting to neck and cranking the shit out of it. Remember to hold the head high, not the neck, basically where the jewish yamulka is. And work on locking this position and the kind of triangle lock that Sylvie shows in some clips, this is hell for a tall guy.
I'm 5' tall - in my experience, if I'm clinching with someone much taller, say 5'9"ish, reaching for the head is impossible. I just don't have leverage once my hand is on the head. My arm is too extended. I usually have to go to body or neck lock.
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On 4/27/2022 at 7:41 AM, Joseph Arthur De Gonzo said:
Anyway, one thing that helps. Is before the bell ring, try to take the habbit of like closing your eye, concentrate and decide on your intentions and mood for that round.
I had used setting intentions to get more aggressive in sparring before. I did it mostly during fight camp because aggression is important for scoring in North America.
One of my intention was "to override" as in to override the opponent's intentions. I felt more comfortable with this than say, "I'm gonna knock this person out", which is not consistent with my own temperament.
Maybe rephrasing your intention could help you progress. Instead of "I need to hit hard and hurt them", go with something like "I'm gonna match their energy for this round".
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On 10/27/2021 at 12:07 AM, Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu said:
You can for instance modify the drills to include light punches on the arms, instead of the head, where the point is to actually feel (and give) the contact.
This reminds me - sometimes my instructor would have the class play shoulder tag. Stand in your fighting stance and try to tap each other's shoulders. The hand should come out the same way a jab or cross would. Eventually, the game would progress to tags to body and legs (using hands only). It gives us a chance to figure out how close we have to be to touch our partner's shoulder, and practice deflecting the other person reaching for your shoulder. And it takes "getting hit" of the table (though, you could get slapped on the shoulder pretty hard, but students don't seem worried).
You'd also have to remind ppl to not to poke each other in the eye.
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If you hold the pads away from your body and elbows close together, you will naturally extend your neck (with your head looking slightly up) which is a weak position to stabilize your brain for impact.
Here's something for reference - tip #4 in this video:
https://youtu.be/0500ZQltjck
I'm small statured and have been able hold for much bigger partners. It's tiring because of their power but no headaches or any injuries. I stand firm, tense up my body to brace for impacts for kicks. If the impact is to much even with bracing and it ends up throwing me back, I simply go with it by walking backwards a few steps. I turn my shoulder in towards the punches to meet the impact instead of meeting the punch with my arm, which can hurt my shoulder. Also breathing out on impact can help also.
I totally get your concern with headaches and head injuries. It might be worthwhile to ask your instructor to watch you hold pads and give you advice on holding pads safely.
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Hey, I'm familiar with the struggles with partnering with beginners. Once is a while is fine, but you don't get as much out of the class as you would with someone at your level. Here are things I've done in the past:
1) ask the advanced women to come help me train (either in class of outside of class)
2) invite the women that are less advanced, but seem keen on learning, to train with me outside of class, say casually for just techniques (I specified no sparring). Also give them opportunity to suggest what to work on during those times you train together.
The 2nd one was very hard initially for me, as it involved setting up this new group training. Our gym had ladies' sparring before that ended in disasters, so I tried to steer us away from that. Also talking to be ppl I don't know and managing multiple new relationships makes me very anxious and mentally exhausted.
But that investment of energy pays dividends - I started this a few years ago and I have a few women from there that developed a lot since and partners when me in class consistently. We train together outside of class also. We even met up in parks to train when the gym got shutdown during covid (but small groups outdoor gatherings were allowed).
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On 2/1/2022 at 9:07 PM, Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu said:
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If you were to use it the way one would say it in Thai, you'd repeat it. The symbol at the end of the following version is the "repeat 1x" symbol. So it's "ning ning". It's not a necessary component at all, it just makes it more colloquial.
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Thanks Sylvie
Is "ning ning" used like an adjective?
Is นิ่ง meant to be used in the context of formal writing? In Cantonese, writing and speaking would used different words to refer to the same thing. I am wondering if that's the case for Thai.
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@Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu can you please type out Ning in Thai? I'm considering a tattoo, but would like to play around with different fonts. Thanks!
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Love seeing everyone's training space!
Here mine. It's not much, but grateful to have anything at all.
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Has anyone come across resources for making a mongkol? I am entertaining the idea of making my own.
I think I am just looking of a creative project... There is a chance I will never use it, since my gym is predominantly kickboxing. I do like the idea of the mongkol being a result of my own merits (efforts put into making it).
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On 8/21/2019 at 9:13 AM, Tyler Byers said:
I have mixed feelings on all of this. The best answer I have is a bit of a non-answer. For me there is a time and place for safety equipment. If I am doing simple drilling I kind of like doing no pads, but for full sparring I prefer to wear shin guards. It really just depends on the partner, pace, and power levels. I have training partners that I loved sparring with (no longer work with them), but I can't imagine us training without shin guards lol. That is because we went fairly hard though. I like to spar somewhere between 60-80%. We could only go hard like that though because we knew each other quite well and understood when to back off a bit. Even when we tested each other a bit there was always an understanding to back off if it got to be too much and it was never emotional. That said, I've been dropped with a few shots in sparring and had my nose fractured twice lol. I've had other partners that I also sparred "fast" with, but with much less power. I never sparred them with no shin guards, but I think we would have both done really well with that. It's just different with each person. The added protection is just that... added protection. Depends on what you are doing and who you are working with.
I agree it depends on the partner. Sparring involves 2 ppl. It doesn't work if you choose one while your partner chooses something else.
And it also depends on objective as well. I have punches the bag with normal gloves, MMA gloves, bare hands. I choose it based on whether I'm training for power, accuracy, or what wrist strength. It's not like we have to pick one and never use the other.
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On 2/12/2020 at 11:55 PM, Oliver said:
Yeah this actually happened, 2nd gym ever back home. Big gym, loads and loads of good quality heavy bags - been there for years and still look brand new, never used. Trainer never said to use them in class, and if we came outside of class on our own time, the gym owner said no. Even if the whole room was empty. If you say you need to because you have a fight soon and you need to do your bag rounds? They still said no.
Crazy.
Yea I have experience not being allowed on the bag as well. As someone that works a 9-5 job, I can only train in the evening when classes are going. And even tho the class doesn't need the bags, they would not let me use it. Even as I'm training to build up conditioning to go to Thailand.
It's frustrating. Sometimes it seems ppl with power just makes your life so much harder, without much thought at all...
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@RB Coop will you be blogging about your time in ubon? I would love to know how the 2 locations compare
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7 hours ago, RB Coop said:
I went to fight, 1st round TKO. I'll upload video when they will send me.
Congratulations!!! Looking forward to the video!
How do you feel? Any bruises/injuries?
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22 hours ago, RB Coop said:
Anyone know how can i stop this before fight? Im running to toilet like 30mins to 1hour, can't imagine holding in diarrhea in the fight, i'll be looking for some meds
This could be nerves... I remember one time, the evening before a fight, a really severe soreness on my shoulder returned from previous injuries. I asked my coach about ice bath and meds, but he said we'll go get dinner. And lo and behold, the soreness was gone during and after dinner.
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Fainting on the run sounds super scary. Are you feeling any better since? Sounds like you're training really hard. Hope you can get some rest and recovery and feel fresh for the fight!
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1 hour ago, RB Coop said:
Good news came after training, im fighting, Dec 24th.
Congrats on fighting!!
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18 hours ago, RB Coop said:
I hope it helps, seems like a fun gym. There is one girl that comes to training each day, goes only once a day tho, all other people who train here are guys, they are kind, funny and helpful so no worries. I'll be leaving on December 26th. Going to stay in Ubon Ratchathani 27-30 and if Sylvie can get a hold of Sagat i'll go stay in Bangkok 30-31 for privates with him. If not i'll just prob stay in Ubon, flying back to my country straight after new year. On Jan 1st. Will you go train 2times a day or only once?
Ah, I will have miss you by days.
And thanks for the heads up about the gym being all guys. Mental preparation is nice for this kind of thing
Sounds awesome to get to travel around for different gyms. I haven't start my trip yet and already wish I had more time... What gym will you train at in Ubon? If I remember correctly, Lamnamoon's gym there as well.
I plan to train 2 times a day and hoping to fight at least once. (I really was hoping to fight 2 times, but I'm afraid I don't have enough time)
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Thank you for these posts.
I will be going to Manop's gym Jan 3 - it helps a lot to know what to expect
Will you still be there in Jan?
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On 11/7/2019 at 10:14 AM, MadelineGrace said:
I truely want to be a good partner and not fail whoever I’m paired up with
I commend you for your desire to be a worthy partner. I feel the same way about this.
Majority of my pad holding experience is with a partner that weighs 40 lbs more than me. And whenever there's a bigger weight difference than that, I have to be really diligent with holding, no day dreaming. Here are some ideas that helped me:
- turn your shoulder in to meet the punch as opposed to just moving your arm (similar to you throwing a cross at the same time). This was the big one for me to make sure I don't injured my shoulder. Also, it feels really solid and good for the person hitting.
- stand with a solid base, like your fighting stance, with feet apart and knee bent
- mirror the footwork of the combo. I mean, your partner would be taking a small step forward with every punch, so you would take a small step backwards while receiving each of those punches
- tuck elbows into your body when holding for kicks and sink your weight down. If the kick is too hard and throws you back, don't be afraid of it. Just know that it's going to throw you back will make your feet move with it, so you won't fall.
- breathe out as you receive the punch. I think it helps you generate more force to meet the punch/kick. The impact don't affect you as much.
I guess a lot of these are the same for if you are hitting... Which makes sense, as the things you do when hitting, like breathing out, turning your shoulders, having a string base, are meant to put you in a strong position.
I remember being really driven to hold well when I first found a partner to do pads with. I wanted to make sure it was worthwhile for my partner. Sometimes I meet training partners that are demanding of having good partners (always asking their partners for favours and help) but don't value the other side of it which is being a good partner. I think the effort you put in to holding pads is beneficial to both you and your partner. Your partner would get a good pad session to improve their skills, and you would get stronger as you regularly meet heavy punches. Your distancing and ability to see punches and react improves from holding pads too. It's awesome that you consider your pad holding skills.
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On 7/12/2019 at 3:39 AM, Jeremy Stewart said:
From a western perspective, in a group class setting, senior students are expected to give training advice. One reason is in anticipation of them being teachers themselves one day, another is kru's eyes can't be everywhere at once. I personally don't mind it, if I find it valid. If I don't find the critique valid, I just tell them that's the way I do it.
Good points here.
Not a trainer/teacher/coach, but I remember when I first started, I was really glad whenever I get to partner with one of the more senior guys. Every once in a while, they would give me pointers on how to do something correctly. The instructor usually don't give advice at that level of meticulousness.
And I was too timid to ask questions (still kinda am)...
Not knowing what you don't know is also an issue. A newbie, as I were, could have no clue that they were doing it wrong.
That said, I have also experience with some clueless dudes who have been at the gym for only a few months and already trying to correct me on things (ie: showing me how to do them incorrectly).
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On 7/24/2019 at 4:53 PM, Brian said:
At this point I'm feeling that if I want to continue to learn Muay Thai, my motivation is going to have to come from myself and not from a coach,
Though my experience is different, I empathize with you on this. It was me, rather than my trainer, that have became unavailable.
I started Muay Thai during university. At that time, I can arrange my class schedule to allow me to take the day time classes during weekdays, which I liked and learned the most from. When I graduated, I already have secured a job. It was a 9-5 type job with great prospects, but I was devastated that graduating means I won't get to take the class I loved so much. It wasn't a temporary situation. I would work similar jobs with similar schedules for the foreseeable future. It felt like I would never get to take classes with this trainer again.
I did basically what you said above and became my own advocate for my training progress. The most effective means was drawing on online resources like Sylvie's and others' videos to learn new material that I could practice when I train by myself at the gym. Since then, I also added training at other gyms later on and meeting with friends to train outside of class. I've been able to improve my skills through these means and even started competing after losing access to this trainer that had motivated me the most.
Perhaps incorporating things you can learn from online resources and adding them to solo training can help you progress while the gym find a permanent replacement. All the best!
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On 6/22/2019 at 1:10 AM, Lisa said:
I must admit to myself that I expected to win (cringe!:)). I had seen her previously. People at my gym were boasting me saying it would be an easy win. I thought that my fear of the shame somehow would carry me through and make me win. (?!? I know this sounds ridiculous!!!) I thought that all my training would overpower the stage fright and adrenaline. So yeah I think that part of the shame also was that I and people around me expected me to win. I wasn’t better than the woman they had been down talking.
I don't think there is anything wrong with believing that you would win. You should believe it.
All the best on your next fight
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I think the shame you feel comes from your expectation of how you would perform, given that you had been able to perform well sparring with the guys at your gym.
You know, I felt shame even when I won. Because there were things that I thought I should be able to do but couldn't. When I told that to my coach, he said that you will always feel that (having things you should be able to do/do better) unless you have a 1 second KO.
In contrast, I had lost in an open tournament against an opponent with 10 fights when I had only 1 fight at the time. I was outmatched and got dominated the whole time. It was a tough beating to take. But I didn't feel shame. While I didn't go in expecting to lose, I didn't actually hold any expectation to win OR lose.
It might be rare situation to never have expectations of yourself. What makes fighting beautiful is perhaps that dignity is on the line. But maybe while you feel shame, you may also remember pride at the same time.
A CBT technique I have used is that I save screenshots of the fight of moments that made me feel proud, and whenever that feeling of shame rises up, I look at those screenshots to teach myself to recognize pride as well. Not to override shame, but to have both shame and pride at the same time (if you've watched cartoon movie "inside out", it's kinda at the end when Joy and Sadness both touch the memory ball).
Kudos for having your first fight
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@Kaitlin Rose Young Thanks for your perspective and congrats on your recent win.
I apologize for my delayed response. I was quite at odds with your response, not because I disagree with it, but because I had a hard time thinking what that means for me and putting that into words.
On 2/4/2019 at 8:46 PM, Kaitlin Rose Young said:it trains people to be fearful strikers.
That was the path I was heading towards. I am usually the smallest and shortest in the room and I feel like I was spending the larger part of an one-hour class just covering my head, seldom actually on offense. I hated the experience and even get emotional from it.
The thing I'm at odds with is that I still think I am with a good team and at a good place for training. It's just that I am too small, too easily breakable, and fear that I am going to be "discarded" when I do become broken (injured).
I had been taking a break from sparring at my home gym (while still training there) and have been sparring at another gym every 2nd saturday. It helped a lot in terms of not being emotional about sparring. I am thinking of adding back sparring at my home gym into the mix. There has been 1 concussion (that I know of) so far this year. But I think some of the people that go especially hard has cycled out. So hope things get better.
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Kicking speed
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If you can rule out flexibility and muscle stretch being the limiting factors, maybe it's worth looking into Don Heatricks explanations on fast twitch vs slow twitch muscle fibres.