Flora

August 3, 2016

Hi,

I have ripped gloves (used to be 12oz, now more close to 0oz haha) that I use for bag work, and I used to have "good" glove (14oz) for sparing only.
I didn't really know where to post this, so I thought here was a good place ... to all of you DO NO BUY VEHEMENT GEAR.
I had the worse experience ever with them, I bought gloves, and a few month after they started to be a bit ripped, so I wrote a message to the compagny (on their facebook page) to ask if they had any guaranty. They have never answer. Then 10 months later, the lower part of the glove was so ripped, it became tear up from the upper part. I wrote them an email (to which they have never answer). Then I wrote a review on their website (which they have never published or immediatly deleted).
I've never had such a bad experience with a brand (I went back to my old top king gear which are still in better condition even though old).
So from now on, I'll stick with TopKing ( or read all the thread and see if there is better brand ;) ).

July 5, 2016

Totally agree with this. Discussion should be open in order to find the best way to minimize risk.

Do I find that to be be an ethical problem? Sure, yeah, that's shitty. But it's not a zero-sum game. You don't get rid of kids participating in sport due to risk of injury any more than you do away with adults taking part in activities that are potentially dangerous. Because kids don't have full consciousness of these risks, it's our job to minimize that risk or to take care of their health as best we can without becoming Draconian or overprotective.

Ultimately I think it's best to keep it as an ongoing discussion between health professionals, researchers, parents and administrators of the sports/arts, and all of us. I don't think we gain anything by closing the book on the discussion by labeling the result "unethical" or simply as "damaging." These kids get incredible benefits out of their fights as well. It's not either/or.

Do you know more about the IQ test? I've looked into it a bit on internet, and although I don't know much about it, it doesn't seems revelant as you said. Because of different education/culture/etc.
Also agree with you about freedom of choice for child, but I think they are not really aware or don't really understand the implication of such injuries ... then, it is responsible to let them choose? that the ethical problem I guess.

The IQ thing I think is unrelevant because of the different lifestyles a kid that trains and a kid that doesn't have - or that's what I assume :D A kid who doesn't train is usually pushed more and more into studying, so they learn patterns to solve tests and stuff like that. A child that spends the minimal amount of time on learning will do things more spontanious and doesn't follow a "pattern", so it might not do as well on tests.

It's an ethical issue, I agree on that. I might feel bad opposing someone who tells me kids shouldn't fight, because deep down I also don't want kids to hurt each other. But I also want them to have the freedom to do what they feel they want to do.

@Kevin, is this the article you are looking for ? here a full link : http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmri.20656/full
or maybe this one : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3703661/pdf/nihms-486669.pdf

the brain scan you posted are from a poster, usually poster are presented before the actual study/article is published

June 29, 2016

This result isn't new, there is a lot of medical study about combat sports, martial art and well sports in general and risk of serious injuries and brain damage, amoung children and adults. A few years ago, I've read a medical review paper about a campaign "doctors against boxing". In this paper doctors were litteraly asking for the ban of the sport, and saying that boxers shouldn't go to medical because basically they have choosen their "curse" (so if boxers are in pain, well, doctors wanted to have the choice not to treat them !!). It's a bit extreme ...

I am not a parent, but I guess there is a nice compromise that can be done : practicing the sport but no actual fighting or competition (until certain age), enough rest days during the week, and good protection. Or maybe start with a sport than is "softer" or use more protections (judo, taekwondo?)?

I struggle myself with the whole idea of fighting. I love muay thai, and I love fighting, but we have one body, one life and one brain so when I do see fights without protections (no mouthpiece, no shinguard, no headgear and 8oz gloves) ... I wonder if it is worth the love and passion. I think at least headgear should be mandatory... too many friends of mine got concussions. I'm saying this but I usually don't wear protection myself ... should practice what I preach ... :/

June 22, 2016

Hey :)

So I've said earlier "I'll let you know if the change in training will change anything (instead of pressure + heavy shot from him -> pressure + let me use him as a "living moving bag")".

I've been using my coach more as a punching bag than anything else (well a bag that still kick your ass when u do something wrong).
I still have hard sparing with some people way better than I am but I try to balance between hard and technical sparing.
Also I've started sparing more and more with girls or people of my height + weight, and it's like my body is more willing to be agressive (because I know I can take those shot. Ehile with heavier people my body remembers previous injuries and is less willing to get in... so I'm just defensive).

It's pretty damn nice to feel again that I can "attack" and not just "defend".

Voilà!!

June 5, 2016

THIS! OOOHH THANKKKSS <3

You can practice this stuff outside of the ring, too. For me, I'm super shy and feel like I'm bothering people or imposing myself to ask anything - like, very normal stuff: asking directions, asking someone to show me something, ordering a coffee... I'm very unwilling to interact. But I push myself to do those things, because that's part of assertive, confident, and aggressive tendencies as well.

June 2, 2016

I'd love to read some advices on this too!!

I've talked with coach recently about changing the way he trained me, and we discussed the 'agressivity' topic for quite a while.
Basically when I started MT, I was really agressive in sparing. But because I was inexperienced (and also, light weight girl compare to more experienced heavier guys) sparing partners wouldn't go hard on me, or would just be a "moving and living punchingbag". With time I would get a few more shot, more bruises or cuts, but everything was bearable, or at least I showed this... so much that it escalated and I actually took some really heavy punches/kicks (one in particular, that resulted in a 4 days in bed not being able to stand on my leg).
Since then, it seems that I lost my 'agressivity', now I spare in a 'smart' way (which isn't actually smart because I'm thinking way to much before 'attacking').
I'll let you know if the change in training will change anything (instead of pressure + heavy shot from him -> pressure + let me use him as a "living moving bag").
Have you ever lost agressivity or you never add it?
I'm curious to read you! :)

oh and also, I talked a few month ago with a women who gives self-defence class about the way we look in the street. And she told me that to develop agressivity, I should look at something chin "up" (normal posture) and look at that same thing chin "down" (like when you are boxing) and repeat this. I don't know if I'm more agressive, but it is true that when doing it I feel a difference in my brain/feeling/emotion (I don't know how to explain this)

May 30, 2016

haha yes you are right @WaffleNinja, I guess I was born to study this ;)

May 30, 2016

Hi MT community, you can totally delete this post if it is inappropriate.

I'm giving a conference soon about plants and sports, and I wanted to know a little bit more about sportives peoples in general. If you have friends who are training something else than MT (even yoga!) you can send them too my survey.

Thanks

Here the link : http://goo.gl/forms/FeAfW78eM3vChfQt1

March 25, 2016

I am so glad this thread is here! I just hurt myself randomly and now it hurts to walk.

how to train around an injured ankle? I stepped out of the car and clumsily fell to the ground, my left ankle snapping out to the side, twisting my foot. Now I can barely walk. I've been icing it and staying off it, but do you guys have any tricks to healing quickly? Does it help to put liniment oil on it, as well, or just ice? Should I use an ankle brace?

I am hoping to go back tonight, Friday, just for punching the bags, no kicking. What was the soonest time after a twisted ankle that you guys went back to doing muay thai?

Thank you!

To heal quickly, beside ice I would suggest essential oil (you can't really have ice all day, while E.O. yes ;) you can message me if you want some more info) and also as they suggest you : k-taping (it's great, I've use it for my wrest)

I'd advise you to just as Maiko said - go find a good therapist and let him apply kinesiology taping. It basically "gives" you additional tendons in the form of the tape. It will help to speed up the healing process, especially if the ankle is swollen, s/he can make you a drainage-kind taping before making it a stability one. So, check it out for sure!!

Flora, I'm sorry to hear about your broken finger. To still work out the arm muscles you might add sth like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJA_K4n-5bA (yeah it looks a bit silly, but hits the muscles hard! :D)

Take a look at 5:05 min - we do that in training with weights (0,5kg or 1kg or more if you can handle :D) and hold up the arms for a minute or a few minutes. You can start out holding a dumbbell 0,5kg and if it gets to hard let go of the weight and just hold up the arms. Without letting go! It's a killer! :D

@Micc :D thanks for this link, I'll add them to my workout -with weight :)

March 25, 2016

I love Meksen so bad!

March 23, 2016

Thanks everyone, will check polymetric and Fitness Blender on youtube!

+1 on box jumps. Try googling Bikram (hot) Yoga near your town. You could do it with a broken finger and it would absolutely be a whole body workout (90min).

Ohh this is such a good idea! I might try next week!!

March 22, 2016

Hi!

Thanks so much for the advices, I thought about running... will start soon (it's still a bit too cold for me right now, when it's below 0°C, my feet are just freezing!). Kick drill, yesyes!

I'll check Sylvie's videos for tomorrow, Thanks Kevin! I went training today, thankfully my coach gave me some tips too about stuff to work on the bag. I would have run out of ideas after kicking ;)

Also, I'd like to work on explosion/power, what do you think is best? I was thinking jumping squat.

March 19, 2016

Hi everyone,

I didn't find a thread about this, and Sylvie wrote about the importance of training around injuries.

So here my problem : I broke a finger 3 days ago in training, which totally suck because I feel I really can't do anything.

Any advices in what techniques I could work on in the meanwhile, how to keep my arm active (even if i can't do push up or pull up because of my finger), or anything else?

Anything else you might think about that I could add to my -now- limited training

Thanks a lot!

March 18, 2016

:( unbelievable

February 22, 2016

Thanks! Got the win by unanimous decision, it was a great experience. The day before the fight I decided I would wear contacts so I could be completely confident on the night. However, one of my friends was doing her first interclub that same morning and had one of her lens split in her eye on the first punch (the ref ended the match early). So I finally decided that I would not wear contacts and suck it up! I made sure I checked all the stairs and entrance to the ring before it was my time to go, so it didn't end up being much of a problem after all.

Congrats for your win!

February 21, 2016

The theory seems way too speculative for me, but I do believe that fighters are acting out very deep patterns in their body, and are often are attempting to transform or transcend them.

I agree with you Kevin, it is one of the many reasons behind wanting to fight.

Do we ask people when they fall in love why they are in love? Usually we don't, because the answer would be to vague, it is - I think- the same with passion. Passion is something you can't explain to someone who isn't passionated.

I wrote a text, about what muay thai is to me, what it brought into my life. I've shared it with two passionates friends - one loves yoga, the other one is a passionated photographer and artist - and they both told me something like that : I've never really understood before, but now I know, it resonate with me in a deeper way. I still think it is a weird passion to have, but I know what you feel, because I feel it too. (If ever you are interested it is : here)

Also, as Micc said : can you define rich westerner?

If rich is living well enough, not to have to fight (against one's will) to make a living :

I guess I am rich : I have an house, I can eat everyday and not die outside in the cold because I also have warm clothes.

It make me remember of something. To the last fight I went (there is less that in Thailand, here we can be happy if there is two event in a month!), I was in the public, looking at all those people with their eyes on the ring and screaming the sh** out of them. I thought "people are so agressive [the public much more than fighter]... we enjoy watching people punching and kicking each other ... and worse ... some people actually are willing to get into the ring ... have we really evolved since gladiator times? or will we ever be the same? "

Some people fight because they have to. Some fight because they love it, but maybe it is deeper than just love, maybe it is because deep under that love, they are fighting something, someone in their life, and this is the way they found to keep themselves alive.

February 19, 2016

I have never been a big fan of Ronda's attitude, but I cannot judge how it is to be under pressure all the time, to be seen by medias and to read or hear comments about you. I guess it is like everyone's life but like a billions time more intense, and if it is a billion times more intense, then I can only imagine how she can feel about high and down in her life.
I agree with @Micc that she looks sensitive and emotional.
What she said on that TV show resonate with me so much I wrote a text on medium.
I'm not sure she was acting to get publicity. Only her knows it :)
Let's hope she will rematch soon Holms, and that it will be a good fight, whether she looses or wins.

February 18, 2016

I have my first fight on a proper show this weekend and am debating whether or not to wear contact lenses. I think I'm leaning towards not wearing them as I don't want to risk any accidents or distractions, and I know that once I'm in the ring in front of my opponent I'll be okay. It really is more of a confidence issue as I have sparred and fought in interclubs without lenses.

Although, I seem to have a bit of trouble with finding my distance but that could be due to other factors beyond bad eyesight.

I've been trying to do a lot of visualisation in the lead up and it makes me nervous to think that I'll walk out there and potentially not be able to see any faces or where I'm stepping. I think it'll be a good idea to get there early and have a good look at the venue on the night. Will report back

Congrats for your 1st (proper) fight! I would say do whatever make you feel more confident, and focus on your strength, not your 'trouble finding distance' (although I realize it is easier said than done. I'm in the same boat as u with distance prob!)

Whatever you choose, keep us posted about ur fight:)

February 12, 2016

ooooh thanks so much, I was thinking about asking Sylvie or Emma about this, and also about differences with MT, seems you will answer that later !
Great topic! Looking foreward to read more :)

February 11, 2016

Hi !

I hope your foot feels better, if not, I might suggest something.

So from what I understood, it is just inflammation from your muscle (I though it could be from the musculus extensor digitorum longus, which woud cause to compress nerves that are responsible for moving your toes (theses nerves are in the back of the leg, and near the achille tendon), or it could have been a tendinitis of your calcaneal tendon (lucky it isn't this))

As I understand you are living in Thailand, I guess finding essential oil isn't a big trouble there, if you are interested, you can message me, and I can tell you what kind of essential oil mix you can try for your pain (but I would need a bit more of talking with you, and some research too).
PS: I'm no wizard, just studying that topics (and when I have injuries I usually heal myself with essential oil).

February 3, 2016

wooh thanks thanks again Sylvie, just received my lobloo yesterday and tried it yesterday too.

I don't think I would have ever buy a cup protector if it wasn't because of ur review, It feel awesome (Actually I forgot I had it, which is why it was so awesome!) And I'm not scared to get knee during clinch now!

[it feel funny i'm all about cup ! lobloo and mooncup power haha!]

@bbf3, are u feeling better?

January 29, 2016

ouuch, pretty awful feelling I bet! Hope you feel better soon @bbf3 ! I have bruises and it feel horrible, I don't even want to imagine a cut!

January 25, 2016

just bought it, can't wait to see if i'm more willing to clinch haha!:) amazing review btw! wish I could find a nice small chest protector also

January 15, 2016

This is a great idea! My 2015 in Muay Thai started off well, but the second half of it went pretty badly, so I'm looking to make some big changes this year.

1. Change my training environment. This is important because I don't think any of my other goals can be achieved without this one.

2. Fight more frequently than I did in 2015.

3. Get my boxing back to the standard that it once was. My hands used to be my best weapon and won me some knockouts, but I've become more of a kicker recently and holes have started appearing in my boxing as it's been neglected along the way.

4. Be first. I have a bad habit of waiting instead of initiating exchanges, but when I do push forward, it works much better for me. I just need to make sure I do it.

5. Meet/train with as many of you guys as possible! (Micc is already meeting up with me and Kelly tonight, which I'm excited about :smile: )

3. Totally understand that, every time I focus on kicking I feel I forget "boxing", but recently I've focus on boxing and now I forget to kick in sparing! haha

6. Will be there by the end of this year, hope I'll meet you !!

January 6, 2016

I don't use contacts myself, but I just wanted to add that to what's already been mentioned about the likelihood of them not staying in during a fight. I can't count the amount of times I've punched a contact lens out in sparring (although I do secretly go 'yesss!' with my inside voice when it does happen, since it means i landed an accurate punch), and it seems really awkward and frustrating for those partners to deal with. There's always that moment of confusion for them when it pops out and they can't see properly, and if that were to take place in a fight situation, I could definitely see a referee stopping it because if they didn't know what was going on, it would look like you just weren't defending yourself. Remember when Tiffany Van Soest fought Sindy Huyer and the ref called a TKO when a teep pulled Sindy's sports bra down and she turned away to stop her boob from falling out? I imagine it would be the same kind of disappointment.

Anyway, since I have no experience of actually wearing lenses myself, that's all I can offer. I'm glad to see there's a good amount of discussion on this topic because I have often wondered what it's like to deal with this! You guys are awesome.

Hahaha I feel your "mean" excitement, one day a girl spare with me, and got both of my eyes (once you get one, the other is too easy to get since your vision is even more confuse with one lense), and I could totally see a smile on her face, even though she keeps asking me if I was ok. It was like "I feel bad, but also badass" face.

Totally remember that fight with Tiffany and Sindy !!! my breast are too small to relate or compare with the awkwardness and disappointment of "loosing a boob" vs "loosing an eye", but it must be so annoying!

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