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Helpful Videos for Beginners

Fri, 15 Jul 2022 00:11:55 +0000

Hey Y'all. Does anyone have any recommendations on which videos would be helpful to watch early (< 6 months) into training?

Thanks!

Smaller Muay khao

Mon, 18 Mar 2024 11:14:40 +0000

Can anyone recommend any clinch fighters that were usually smaller than their opponents to study ? In the MTL or not.

Silly question about the $1 tier

Fri, 23 Feb 2024 19:53:16 +0000

Do we get to keep the videos we 'unlock' as time goes by? I don't know if I can contribute more per month, but I also don't know if I can study everything I'll unlock in a single month so I was wondering if we get to keep them and study somehow. I want to contribute though!

Thanks!

Suggestions for Krus and Legends to Film for the Muay Thai Library

Sat, 18 May 2019 20:03:28 +0000

Here is a place to suggest krus and legends who would make good additions to film for the Library. Any helpful information on how to contact them, where they are is always appreciated! Just as a matter of practicality anyone in the corridor from Pattaya to Bangkok all the way up to Chiang Mai is reachable. I do plan to take special trips out to Isaan, so krus to the North East also are reachable eventually. But I have no plans to go down to the islands. You can suggest krus down in the islands, but it becomes less realistic. All suggestions welcome though!

If you aren't sure if someone is already in the Library, here is an up to date list of everyone so far included

Muay Thai legends WBC fights

Tue, 20 Dec 2022 03:50:26 +0000

Hey I just wanted to see if we could make a thread linking some of the WBC fights that guys in the library have had?

Samart vs Jeff Fenech. Super Bantemweight title fight 1987. Story from what I’m hearing is Samart was very sick before this fight. Still we can see just how slick Samart is in the beginning until he gassed.

This one is of Samart vs Rafael Gandarilla. Masterclass in open stance jabbing. Samart absolutely destroys this guy. So cool how damn GOOD Thais are at moving backwards. Even in western boxing. I love this match, the strange venue (it’s like a fancy dinner?) the video quality is amazing too.

I’m really hoping especially to find some Samson fights. It’s cool seeing how these guys boxed.

Discussion - Rambaa Somdet M16 Muay Thai Library Session

Fri, 17 May 2019 04:04:26 +0000

Here is a discussion zone for the Rambaa Somdet M16 Muay Thai Library session (published 5/17/2019), which is pretty chalk full of technique. There is so much in it is difficult to total. One of the coolest things in it is the Pistol-Whip Elbow that he teaches within the clinch. A GIF from when he first taught it to Sylvie a few years ago:

In any case, this is a space where patrons (and others) can seek clarity or have back and forth on some of the details in Rambaa's fighting approach.

All the Great Things That Are Available to Patrons

Thu, 27 Oct 2022 08:20:17 +0000

This is the outgoing message that I send to all my patrons when they join. It describes all the different and many things you get access to when you become a patron, including the Library, documentary projects, Technique Vlogs, interviews, and much more.

Glad to have you a part of my Patreon project. You are not only providing support for my full time training and fighting as I push to incredible, impossible goals including one day achieving a world record “most fights ever” 471 documented pro fights, a record which has stood since boxer Len Wickwar established it in 1947 (link: https://8limbsus.com/muay-thai-thailand/fights-ever-chasing-len-wickwar-untouchable-record ), you are also buoying the 8limbsus.com blog home to over 1,000 articles I’ve written so far, and its newly designed Muay Thai forum (link: https://8limbsus.com/muay-thai-forum/ ) where in-depth discussions can be had, and the second Sylvie Study site (link: http://www.sylviestudy.com/ ) which contains the most in depth video study of Thai legends ever. Not only this.

A Great Way To Follow The Library: Instagram

We’ve got a great Instagram account that’s just for Muay Thai Library clips, news and history about the Legends, and basically a way to navigate the Library as it’s become so big now that many people aren’t sure where to start. You can see a clip from a session and then go watch the full hour in the Muay Thai Library. Be sure to follow that account for clips, stories, history, etc. https://www.instagram.com/themuaythailibrary/

The Muay Thai Library Table of Contents

Importantly you are a part of the Muay Thai Library project (link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/muay-thai-join-7058199 ), which is the attempt to document the Muay Thai of over 250 krus and ex-fighters in Thailand, helping preserve that knowledge for future generations. The Library is constantly growing with more than one long form video added each month, so the easiest way to navigate it is through the Muay Thai Library page, which is like a Table of Contents: https://www.patreon.com/posts/muay-thai-uncut-7058199 where all the videos are listed with a brief description. You are funding all of these projects, and me as a fighter and a writer, and I do my best to bring you higher and higher quality content all the time.

Finding Your Way Around the Muay Thai Library

There are already over 160 hours of commentary video there, so even that contents list can be a little intimidating.
We’ve created this in depth video as an introduction to the Muay Thai Library, along with our recommendations to what we think are the 10 Best Muay Thai Library sessions so far. Check it out: https://www.patreon.com/posts/54714010

The Library contains some of the most incredible instruction ever documented, so even though it is a large and intimidating archive it is worth taking the time to learn how to sort through it. You could spend a year studying a video a week and you would not run out of irreplaceable material. And individual sessions are worth multiple rewatches, as these include some of the greatest fighters and krus Thailand has ever seen. People support the Library for a variety of reasons. Some out of respect for the Golden Age of Muay Thai, and enjoy learning about and seeing great fighters and techniques of the past. Some people are students who are looking for authentic Thai techniques, taught in the context of real fighting styles (and not in demos). And some who have trained in Thailand and do not find themselves here feel transported back to the land and art that they love through these videos. But, whatever your reasons, it’s good to find ways to get into the sessions.

If you are new to the Library this post is a great place to start. It contains an hour discussion by Kevin and myself on our favorite don't-miss sessions as well as helpful material on navigating the Muay Thai Library and finding the best things to study.

So aside from our intro video (link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/54714010 ) shortcuts into exploring the material of the Library can be found on the post page (link: https://www.patreon.com/sylviemuay/posts ). There you will find ways to filter the material by type.

If you are a more of a beginner you can watch instructionals with top fighters that are The Basics (link: https://www.patreon.com/sylviemuay/posts?tag=MTL%3A The Basics ). If you are a Knee Fighter, you can watch videos that focus more on knee and clinch fighting under the Muay Khao filter (link: https://www.patreon.com/sylviemuay/posts?tag=MTL%3A Muay Khao ) (an area of fighting that is under-documented). If you want to focus on sessions in particular with Legends of the sport, go to the Legends tab (link: https://www.patreon.com/sylviemuay/posts?tag=MTL%3A Legends Only ) and you’ll see sessions with some of the greatest fighters ever, many of which have never been filmed in this way. If you are Southpaw, you can find sessions that are Southpaw oriented (link: https://www.patreon.com/sylviemuay/posts?tag=MTL%3A Southpaw ) These are just a few examples, so check out all the filters.

Also. A great way to hop around in the Muay Thai Library is to watch our sessions which document all the Fighters of the Year, thus far. These are fighters which dominated specific years in the history of the sport and attained special recognition:

You can always find these listed separately in the Table of Contents (which should be your touchstone), but we'll list them here too:

The 16 Fighters of the Year in the Library:

Yodwicha (2012): #10 The Clinch Techniques of Yodwicha - Session 2 (34 min) watch it here and #4 Yodwicha - Clinch and Muay Khao (Knee) Specialist (35 min) - watch it here and #99 Yodwicha Por Boonsit 3 - Spearing the Middle, Fighting With Rhythm (66 min) watch it here

Singdam (2002): #22 Singdam Kiatmoo9 - Making the Basics Beautiful (71 min) watch it here

Namsaknoi (1996): #65 Namsaknoi Yudthagarngamtorn - Sharking The Angles (67 min) watch it here and #73 Namsaknoi Yudthagarngamtorn 2 - Overcoming Distance (61 min) watch it here

Wangchannoi (1993): #93 Wangchannoi Palangchai - Deadly Step Counter Fighting (70 min) - watch it here and #95 Wangchannoi Sor. Palangchai #2 - The Secret Powers of a Cool Heart (77 min) watch it here

Jaroensap (1992): #91 Jaroensap Kiatbanchong - Silky Power (63 min) watch it here

Samson (1991): #41 Samson Isaan 1 - The Art of Dern Fighting (64 min) watch it here and Samson Isaan 2 - Muay Khao & Western Boxing Excellence (59 min) watch it here and #116 Samson Isaan 3 - Dern Pressure Fighting & Defense (44 min) watch it here #123 Samson Isaan 4 - Secrets Of His Pressure Fighting (122 min) watch it here

Kaensak (1989, 1990): #24 Kaensak Sor. Ploenjit - Explosive Defense (55 min) watch it here

Samart (1981, 1983, 1988): #34 Samart Payakaroon - Balance, Balance, Balance! (81 min) watch it here

Langsuan (1987): #45 Langsuan Panyutapum - Monster Muay Khao Training (66 min) watch it here

Panomtuanlek (1986): #131 Panomtuanlek Hapalang - The Secret of Tidal Knees (100 min) watch it here

Chamuakphet (1985): #49 Chamuakpet Hapalang - Devastating Knee in Combination (66 min) watch it here #81 Chamuakpet Hapalang 2 - Muay Khao Internal Attacks (65 min) watch it here

Kongtoranee (1978, 1984): #37 Kongtoranee Payakaroon - Power In The Hands (89 min) watch it here

Dieselnoi (1982): #48 Dieselnoi Chor. Thanasukarn - Jam Session (80 min) watch it here AND #30 Dieselnoi Chor Thanasukarn 2 - Muay Khao Craft (42 min) watch it here AND #3 Dieselnoi Chor Thanasukarn - The King of Knees (54 min) - watch it here #76 Dieselnoi Chor Thanasukarn 4 - How to Fight Tall (69 min) watch it here

Padejseuk (1979): Padejseuk Pitsanurachan - Old School Greatness (67 min) watch it here

Pudpadnoi (1975) - Pudpadnoi Worawut - The Basics from the Legend (72 min) watch it here

Sirimongkol (1972): #54 The Late Sirimongkol and Lertrit Master General Tunwakom (81 min) watch it here

go to all the Fighters of the Year in the Muay Thai Library here

It’s Not Only the Library

This patreon is incredibly large. I don’t really know any other patreon dedicated so much to fighting arts that is even close to it, and I’m always doing my best to expand what patrons get. So, aside from the Library videos I'm also writing exclusive articles for patrons, posting my fight video commentaries, creating Muay Thai burnouts conducting translated interviews with legends of the sport, and producing a Kai Muay Diaries series on the Thais and life at my gym in Pattaya. You can see a Table of Contents of this additional Patreon Only content here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/16559053 . I’m constantly adding to this.

Get more with the App

I’d also suggest that you download the Patreon mobile app. This is a very easy way to read through and watch the material. Not only are you alerted to newly published sessions, legends are now at your fingertips. You can be on the subway or be waiting for the doctor and just scroll through and watch all time greats like Dieselnoi or Samart teach Muay Thai, or you can read my latest Muay Thai article. I also update on the app on my day as a fighter in short 15 second videos (24 hrs snapchat style) giving a window into what it’s like being me in Thailand. You can download the app here: blog.patreon.com/lens

The Patreon Forum

With the help of patrons I’ve been able to establish and maintain an online forum, where all sorts of Muay Thai questions and subjects can be discussed and answered. You can find the forum here: Muay Thai Roundtable:
Within that forum there is a Patreon Muay Thai Library sub-forum where we can talk about particular sessions, or krus and legends archived in the Library:
https://8limbsus.com/muay-thai-forum/forum/18-patreon-muay-thai-library-conversations/ (where you are right now!)
It’s very easy to join the forum, you can quickly do it with your email, or even with Facebook. As patrons, I’d love to see you there.

The Roundtable Muay Thai Forum even has a one of a kind women only section where women who are passionate about the sport can talk about their experiences in ways they might not in mixed gender spaces:
https://8limbsus.com/muay-thai-forum/forum/7-womens-roundtable-women-only/
This is a one of a kind digital space that is only made possible through patron support.

The Vimeo Karuhat (and Yodkhunpon) Intensive

Lastly, even though the Muay Thai Library is an incredible documentary project, full of videos you can watch and study over and over again, it gave rise to a big parallel project, the Sylvie Study Intensive, which you can find over at sylviestudy.com. This is the same kind of idea as the Muay Thai Library, but instead of single sessions with a legend, it’s up to 30 or more sessions with a single legend, allowing you to watch an entire style being taught, in serious depth. Currently the great champion Karuhat has been documented in over 33 hours of commentary video, and 7 hours Yodkhunpon, the Elbow Hunter, has been added. 100% of the profit from these series goes to Karuhat & Yodkhunpon. These are the most detailed documentation of martial and fighting arts ever made. And the legends get 100% of the net profits from these videos with are all on Vimeo On Demand. You can find and subscribe or rent/purchase any of these sessions (link:

So, you can read up on all those intensive sessions on sylvie study (link: http://www.sylviestudy.com/ ), read breakdown and training vlog, and watch lots of free video (link: http://www.sylviestudy.com/type/video/ ) excerpts from them. Sylvie Study is kind of a sister site to this Patreon, and outgrowth of the mission to document Thai techniques in depth, and to open discussion about them. Here’s a cool of example of the kind of content you’ll find over there, my vlog on the Principle of Continuity as I discovered by training with Karuhat:
http://www.sylviestudy.com/intensive-training-vlog-on-continuity-training-vlog-8-47-min/sylvie/

Patrons of the $15 and $5 levels get discount codes to the Intensive session series.

go to the 50% off promocode for $15 patrons here

.go to the 15% off promocode for $5 patrons

You can subscribe for free to the Sylvie Study Intensive here (link: https://8limbs.us10.list-manage.com/subscribe/post?u=ff6c8949c1c59e44f9e57a9e8&id=81cf1bec4c ) and not miss any of those in-depth posts. Examples of the kinds of posts you’ll get are this Yodkhunpon post on developing (link: http://www.sylviestudy.com/that-gallop-episode-22-yodkhunpon-intensive-day-1-64-min/sylvie/ ) elbow fighting techniques, or my husband’s breakdown of the internal games from Southpaw found in Karuhat’s style. Secrets of Karuhat’s Style (link: http://www.sylviestudy.com/the-secrets-of-karuhats-style-four-internal-games-from-southpaw/kevin/ ).

And That Is Not All - podcasts

The conversation about Muay Thai is so rich Kevin and I have started the Muay Thai Bones Podcast, recorded on our very long drives across Thailand. We discuss everything under the sun about Muay Thai in all the detail we can muster, you basically get to go on road trip with us. We put our Muay Thai Bones podcasts up on YouTube so everyone can enjoy them, you can find my Playlist of those here:

But, as patrons you have access to the Apple or Android audio version of Muay Thai Bones. You can find out how to access those episodes here:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/29726337

These are completely epic podcasts, sometimes more than 3 hours long, and patrons have absolutely been loving them. I hope you enjoy them too!

We’ve also added podcast versions of new Muay Thai Library sessions, so you can listen to the commentary and our post filming conversations on deep lessons in the session.

go to all the Muay Thai Library podcasts here

In any case, thank you for your monthly support. You are making this incredible project and all these channels possible, and I’m doing my best to keep bringing you the video and articles that enrich your love of Muay Thai. We are doing this together. I’m always happy to hear from my patrons, so be free to share any of your Patreon Muay Thai Library thoughts and experiences on my Community Page (link: https://www.patreon.com/sylviemuay/community ) If you find a session you really love write about it there, or any thoughts about what would make this Patreon even better!

Where You Can Find Me

If you’d like to keep up with me and all that I’m doing:

A shorthand link to all my links is here:
https://linktr.ee/sylviemuay

Individually you can see them here:

My main Muay Thai FB Page
all my updates thoughts, and shares
(link: https://web.facebook.com/pg/sylviemuaythai/posts/ )

Muay Thai Techniques - Preserve The Legacy FB Page - focuses on Thai techniques and the history of Muay Thai
(link: https://www.facebook.com/preservethelegacy/ )

My YouTube Channel over 12 million views
(link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgFe05f-DrPpaunE4Gaz3cQ )

Sylvie on Twitter
(link:

Follow me on Instagram
(link: https://www.instagram.com/sylviemuay/ )

And importantly, follow the Muay Thai Library on Instagram here:
https://www.instagram.com/themuaythailibrary/

Follow my husband’s photography at Muaynoir.com (prints are available for sale, profits benefit the Legends and Krus) and at https://www.behance.net/muaynoir

https://8limbsus.com/ - my Muay Thai blog with over 1,000 articles already published and more always in the works

The Roundtable Muay Thai Forum - 8limbsus.com - where longer forum discussion can be had with like-minded people, and all your questions answered. (You're on it)
(link: http://8limbs.us/muay-thai-forum/ )

Sylvie Study Intensive website - sylviestudy.com - really in-depth discussion and video documentation of some of the greatest fighters who ever fought. Subscribe here.
(link: http://www.sylviestudy.com/ )
(link: https://8limbs.us10.list-manage.com/subscribe/post?u=ff6c8949c1c59e44f9e57a9e8&id=81cf1bec4c )

Vimeo On Demand - Sylvie Study Intensive - where you can subscribe to, rent or buy Sylvie Study Intensive videos in the series.
(link:

Follow me on Reddit
(link: https://www.reddit.com/user/sylviemuay )

Muay Thai Bones Podcast:
https://www.patreon.com/sylviemuay/posts?tag=Muay Thai Bones

The Greatest Muay Thai Trilogy Ever Fought - Samson Isaan vs Lakhin Wassandasit (all 3 fights)

Sat, 17 Sep 2022 02:39:38 +0000

Treat yourself to one of the greatest battles ever in Thailand. Here is a playlist of the 3 fights all of which happened in 1992 after Samson had won FOTY in 1991: Samson vs Lakhin Trilogy (playlist). Samson was known for his unparalleled toughness, both a Muay Maat fighter and a Muay Khao clinch fighter, a relentless force. Lakhin was nicknamed "Thai Tyson" for hitting way above his weight, a ferocious puncher to held the Rajadamnern belt at this weight.

Fight 1

Fight 2

Fight 3

You can study both fighters here:

#41 Samson Isaan 1 - The Art of Dern Fighting (64 min) watch it here

#74 Samson Isaan 2 - Muay Khao & Western Boxing Excellence (59 min) watch it here

#116 Samson Isaan 3 - Dern Pressure Fighting & Defense (44 min) watch it here

#123 Samson Isaan 4 - Secrets Of His Pressure Fighting (122 min) watch it here

and

#75 Lakhin Wasantasit - Boxing & Muay Thai Organized Destruction (76 min) watch it here

The Best Femeu Counter-Fighting Sessions in the Muay Thai Library - and other resources

Fri, 09 Sep 2022 01:26:28 +0000

A fellow on Reddit asked about what he called "passive" Thai fighters, by which he meant relaxed, defensive, countering styles. I put together this list of Muay Thai Library sessions which really bring out that very difficult style, as we've been able to document it, including some of the context that I wrote in answer:

There are several top Golden Age fighters (and post-Golden Age) who we have documented in the Muay Thai Library project with styles that are similar to those you describe. I'll link them here. These are hour long documentary videos with commentary, of them showing their style. In terms of study it this format is many ways better than watching them fight in old video (though watch their fights too), because it starts from the ground up, and focuses on their particularly loved techniques or tactics:

#111 The Karuhat Rosetta Stone 7 - The Secrets of the Matador (83 min) https://www.patreon.com/posts/56179745

#89 Arjan Pipa JockyGym - The Roots of Femeu (77 min) https://www.patreon.com/posts/39307538

#118 Phettho Sitjaopho - Muay Femeu Excellence (70 min) https://www.patreon.com/posts/63701377

#82 Chanchai Sor. Tummarungsri - The King of Teeps (54 min) https://www.patreon.com/posts/35660908

#72 YodPitak Cho. Nateetong 1 - Art of Femeu Interruptions and Balance (73 min) https://www.patreon.com/posts/30870395

#55 Manop Manop Gym 1 - The Art of the Teep (90 min) https://www.patreon.com/posts/24379228

#47 Silapathai Jockygym - Master of Teep Distance (64 min) https://www.patreon.com/posts/21484000

#40 Gen Hongthonglek - Muay Femeu Tactics & Mindset (70min) https://www.patreon.com/posts/19092801

#11 Karuhat Sor. Supawan 2 - Float and Shock (82 min) https://www.patreon.com/posts/karuhat-sor-and-8329146

#7 Karuhat Sor. Supawan 1 - Be Like Sand (62 min) https://www.patreon.com/posts/karuhat-sor-be-7348562

You can see the full Library here, but above are probably the most femeu in the way that you described: https://www.patreon.com/posts/muay-thai-uncut-7058199

Of those above, Karuhat and Silapathai are absolutely the elite, Google their fights. Karuhat in my mind is probably the most skilled stylistic fighter in Thai history. Silapathai is just bonkers smooth. Arjan Pipa, above, isn't a top ex-fighter, but he was a lead trainer at Jocky Gym which produced some of the greatest femeu fighters in history. Fighters like Saenchai, Somrak, Silapathai, Lerdsila and others. He holds the blueprint for much of their styles.

Chanchai was a beautiful teeper, and may have had the most revered teep game, second to Samart.

Manop was Saenchai's padman for a long time at Yokkao, and is one of the best, most technical teachers.

Gen Hongthonglek is a newer fighter and talks a lot about the femeu psychological game.

The femeu style is one of the most difficult to learn - for that reason it's the most prized in Thailand historically - because it relies on timing and eyes, and a true sense of relaxation. In our documentation it allows us to dig into the hidden parts of the more passive femeu, what makes it happen.

Highlights To Study

Other great highlight sources are Muay Thai Scholar's Karuhat switching edit, one of my favorite breakdown edits ever produced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9X6N2DmYbc

Here is Muay Thai Scholar's Silapathai edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR13BDVMU7s

Here is Muay Thai Scholar's Charnchai edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfMrauD0Pow

Here is Muay Thai Scholar's edit on how Silapathai defeated heavy punchers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hshDy7g1xY8

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Fighters in the Muay Thai Library Who Are Short, or Fight Up a Lot - A Short Man's Style

Wed, 27 Oct 2021 07:02:22 +0000

A question on Reddit had me compiling a list of fighters or krus in the Muay Thai Library that had a shorter man's style. Here is a preliminary list for everyone:

In the Muay Thai Library these are shorter fighters who fought taller opponents, or krus that taught a short man's style. Many of these are legends of the sport. Many of these are pressuring Muay Maat (punch-heavy) fighters. As a shorter fighter it is often advantageous to collapse the pocket, sometimes develop a low kick game:

Arjan Metprik (kru of the very tough short FOTY Thanonchai): https://www.patreon.com/posts/48810277
Chatchanoi https://www.patreon.com/posts/57425804

Morakot: https://www.patreon.com/posts/47524832

Pairojnoi: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43891886

Samransak: https://www.patreon.com/posts/38992145

Rambaa: 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/37838229, 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/26699042, 3: https://www.patreon.com/posts/13625213

Hippy: 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hippy-singmanee-7145938, 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/14697690

Chamuakphet: 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/34875441, 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/22159245

Kongsamut: https://www.patreon.com/posts/kongsamut-sor-76-20147137

Kongtoranee: https://www.patreon.com/posts/18090011

Lakhin: https://www.patreon.com/posts/32055712

Samson: 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/31628485, 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/samson-isaan-art-19485162

You'll see in a lot of these fighters they use a lot of weapons, attacking high and low, and try not to stand at distance. A good place to start might be someone like Kongsamut, or if more advanced, someone like Chamuakphet.

and tons of Karuhat links here. He fought way up, though he is a very difficult fighter to emulate:

https://8limbsus.com/muay-thai-forum/topic/1061-is-there-a-way-to-view-all-videos-by-a-trainer-all-of-karuhats-sessions/

switching to southpaw reasons?

Thu, 28 Apr 2022 22:22:03 +0000

(Im new to this so I dont know if my formatting is correct or if Im posting in the right place, sorry) I am heavily interested in the Muay Khao style of fighting, I noticed that Sylvie noted that she switched to southpaw after years of being orthodox in her Muay Thai Library on Patreon. Are there reasons that anyone or Sylvie herself changed to southpaw? Since most of her opponents seem to be orthodox, is it because her left knee to the orthodoxes open side is more available instead of having to switch stance?

Thank you for everyones responses in advance!

also as an introduction since this is my first post. Hi! Im Carter, im 17 and I started Muay Thai in August.

All Things Yodkhunpon - Videos, Tutorials, Slowmotion, Interviews, Fights of the Elbow Hunter

Fri, 20 Aug 2021 06:38:46 +0000

Because we've shot so much with Yodkhunpon it makes sense to put everything there is so far in a single place. This way you can browse through the documentation and if you are a superfan get more and more of this wonderful fighter.

Biography

The tales of The Elbow Hunter are a series of patron-supported short interviews we have done with Yodkhunpon talking about his life and career. You get to see the gentleness that lies beneath his violent elbow style:

Sylvie telling a story of Yodkhunpon he told her:

Slow Motion

The Muay Thai Library Sessions with Yodkhunpon

#9 Yodkhunpon "The Elbow Hunter" pt 1 - Slicing Elbow (37 min) watch it here

Simultaneous Raja and Luminee title holder at 118 lbs, Yodkhunpon was one of the most feared elbow fighters in Thailand, and in this session he teaches the looseness and spacing that made his lead elbow such a viscious weapon. He also shuns the traditional rocking chair knee, and instead teaches a powerful stand-in crossing, open-hipped knee that compliments his elbows up top.

#15 Yodkhunpon "The Elbow Hunter" part 2 - Escapes (48 min) watch it here

Part 2 of my session with one of the most feared elbow fighters of the Golden Age, Yodkhunpon Sitraipom, The Elbow Hunter of 100 Stitches. Lots of fine details in this one, escapes from clinch locks, turns and catches. Best is his floating, gentle style that also holds such violence.

#84 Yodkhunpon Special Intensive - The Whole Elbow Style (70 min) watch it here

No other fighter in all of Thailand has developed so complete and pressuring a style based on the weapon of elbows. In this session the Elbow Hunter of 100 Stitches presents his whole galloping style, revealing how he opens up windows for his elbows, and uses those windows to then open up attack with other weapons.

#104 Yodkhunpon Sittraipum - The Art of Shadowboxing (64 min) watch it here

Some have said this is one of the favorite sessions in all the Library. It's very rare to get detailed instruction and advice on How to Shadowboxing, let alone from a great fighter fo the past. This is a FULL hour of how to shadowbox, learn with me as I learn from The Elbow Hunter of 100 Stitches Yodkhunpon, the greatest Elbow Fighter in Thai history.

Bonus Session 9: Yodkhupon Sittraipum - Lethal Smoothness (73 min) watch it here

In this session Yodkhunpon really delves down into the smoothness of his style, with great emphasis on his galloping footwork towards the end. It's all about building a pressure style that does not strain, but rather exerts a constant music of forward attack.

Yodkhunpon on The Art of Shadowboxing

#104 Yodkhunpon Sittraipum - The Art of Shadowboxing (64 min) watch it here

Yodkhunpon Techniques

Knees

Footwork

Hitting Guard

A Free 30 Minute Training Session w/ Commentary - Him Teaching His Style

Watch With Me Fights of Yodkhunpon

Sylvie and I have done watch with me edits of fights of the Golden Age, these are the fights of Yodkhunpon we covered:

His Championship Fights:

A Footwork Edit:

A Yodkhunpon Fights YouTube Playlist

Modern Martial Artist's Breakdown of Yodkhunpon's Style

The Muay Thai Library Sessions with Yodkhunpon

#9 Yodkhunpon "The Elbow Hunter" pt 1 - Slicing Elbow (37 min) watch it here

#15 Yodkhunpon "The Elbow Hunter" part 2 - Escapes (48 min) watch it here

#84 Yodkhunpon Special Intensive - The Whole Elbow Style (70 min) watch it here

#104 Yodkhunpon Sittraipum - The Art of Shadowboxing (64 min) watch it here

Bonus Session 9: Yodkhupon Sittraipum - Lethal Smoothness (73 min) watch it here

Aside from the Library if you really want to dive deep you can also rent or buy or subscribe to the Sylvie Intensive Series which includes 7 days of learning from Yodkhunpon, over 7 hours. All the earned profits from tht series go to Karuhat and Yodkhunpon:

browse that series here

If you'd like to help support Yodkhunpon you can also get a shirt we've designed for him showing his bloody elbow wearing his Lumpinee Belt, 100% of the earned profits go to him!

get that shirt here

The solve to the face smush in clinch in the Muay Thai Library

Sun, 21 Feb 2021 19:01:55 +0000

Hello all,

I am trying to remember which patreon video was for escape from the "face smush/mush" (or whatever it was coined) in clinch? Does anyone know? Or can also suggest their own escapes from it? Realised that I often do it myself, but have no idea what do i do if someone else does it on me.

Clinch Video Resources in the Muay Thai Library and Beyond

Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:38:23 +0000

Clinch is one of the hardest things to learn, both in and out of Thailand. In Thailand it's hard because it often doesn't involve lots of instruction. You get thrown in the water in long clinch sessions and you learn by experience and by watching. Outside of Thailand it can be even more difficult because you generally are not surrounded by high level clinch technique, so its hard to improve from basics. In any case the Muay Thai Library project can help because in many of the sessions a great variety of clinch techniques are shown. Just watching the videos can give you idea for positions or principles to try in your own training, and break you out of whatever you are already practicing. One of the best things about clinch in Thailand is how varied it is.

Clinch in the Muay Thai Library

You can find all the clinch-oriented sessions of the Muay Thai Library, or sessions that have some substantive clinch (you may have to skip around in the session), in this tag. Just scroll down and you'll find over 30 documented hours. What you'll see is that there is so much to learn from Thailand's clinch that isn't usually taught. You are learning from legends of the sport, and from great krus, and seeing how clinch fits together with various Muay Thai fighting styles. This kind of documentation is incredibly valuable:

Clinch in the Muay Thai Library

Muay Thai Clinch Playlist

Also, I've made a YouTube Playlist of all the (free, public) videos covering clinch that I've done over the years. There are over 50 videos there that anyone can browse and learn from: watch the playlist here

watch the clinch playlist here

Muay Thai Clinch Basics

If you are just starting out, or are experienced and would like to review basics, the above 1 hour seminar is my version of an introduction to clinch, from what I've learned, given to the team out of the SMAC gym. People really love it, and its free for everyone.

Going beyond clinch

You might also like to study my technique vlogs in the Library. Below is a list of those published up to this point in time. They share thoughts about techniques that I've learned from the Library itself, as I filmed it, and which I work on as a fighter. They can give ideas on how to approach techniques, aside from just trying to copy them:

All my Technique Vlogs for Patrons

If you enjoyed this technique vlog check out my other Patron-only technique vlogs:

#21 Your Ambient Footwork (15 min)

#20 Jang-wa, Rhythm and Timing (15 min)

#19 Training Ruup & Composure (13 min)

#18 Closing the Door in Long Guar (11 min)

#17 Static Block for Balance (9 min)

#16 The Diamond Guard (20 min)

#15 Mental Gym, Beginning to Advanced Visualization (19 min)

#14 Getting the Right Hand In (13 min)

#13 Rising on Techniques (6 min)

#12 Control of the Kick (6 min)

#11 Body Position First (11 min)

#10 All About How I Recover (12 min)

#9 Creating Power and Distance At Close Range (9 min)

#8 Where Are Your Feet? Foot Position (9 min)

#7 Evolving in the Long Guard (10 min)

#6 The Power of Eye Contact (10 min)

#5 Dieselnoi's Lowkick in the Clinch (12 min)

#4 Air Knees in the Corner (8 min)

#3 Acceleration at the End of Strikes (10 min)

#2 The Kem Pivot (12 min)

#1 Dealing With Fear, How to Cut it Out (13 min)

There Are No More Great Muay Thai Teachers in the World - Sifu McInnes

Wed, 08 May 2019 06:00:09 +0000

I just wanted to relate to everyone part of a conversation we were having with Sifu McInnes in Pattaya when filming with him for the Library. I think the conversation will make the session cut, but I'm not sure. We were talking about the loss of the Golden Age techniques, something Sylvie and I talk about frequently. The part that she and I emphasize is that the great fighters of the Golden Age are no longer in the fight game. They find themselves outside of gyms, many of them no longer involved in Muay Thai at all. Not only are the techniques being lost, but the men of that age, their personalities, their knowledge depth, also are being lost. Sifu though had a different point. He has the perspective of someone who was super active in Lumpinee fighting in the Golden Age. He was close to Arjan Yodthong of Sityodtong, in fact Sifu says that he built his house next to the gym at the time, so close was their working relationship. He said for a decade he traveled the road to Lumpinee with Arjan Yodthong, week after week. His point though was not that the great fighters are no longer in Muay Thai, but that its the great coaches who made those fighters are no longer in Muay Thai. Of course Arjan Yodthong who made an incredible number of champions sadly passed away, but Sifu said that many others have died as well. In fact he challenged us to name a single legendary Muay Thai teacher who is still strongly connected to producing stadium fighters. We thought for a minute and could only come up with Arjan Surat of Dejrat Gym. But Sifu objected. Arjan Surat was a young man then, when the Golden Age was happening. That is not the generation he was referring to. It's the generation that was before. That was the generation which actually produced the legends of the Golden Age. And, as we both agreed, it is irrevocably lost because the entire system that made those great instructors, the Yodthongs of Thailand, is gone, the entire feeding system to Bangkok is heavily altered, radically changed. The quality of instruction, even at top Thai gyms, is no longer what it was in those days, Sifu claimed. He said that he would sit in Lumpinee with legendary coaches and they would just make money hand over fist following their bets. They could see which fighter was going, and in what round. He said that kind of knowledge, all the infinite perceptions are gone. It's a great session, so much in it technically, but that conversation will stay with me. With the Library we are trying to save the techniques, the Muay, and something of the men who fought so brilliantly in those decades, but Sifu reminded me that the ecological loss is even more than that. It's of the generation before them, the men of Muay Thai who were shapers of that greatness we all look back on.

Some stills from the session (you can follow my photography on Instagram)

Studying Kaensak... interrupted :D

Thu, 21 May 2020 11:17:57 +0000

So Ina and I were studying the library session with Kaensak, watching closely and taking notes, marveling at everything he teaches. Then our cat Chichi decided it’s time to give her some attention.

But on a serious note: This session for me is another hidden gem in the library. It’s easily comprehensible, Kaensak is brilliantly adding and building up techniques and it’s just so enjoyable watching Sylvie and him train. If you haven’t seen the session, watch it.

Now it’s time to try, learn and implement the stuff shown here.

Once again thank you Sylvie AND Kevin for doing what you do, preserving the legacy.

Is There A Way to View All Videos By A Trainer? - All Of Karuhat's Sessions

Thu, 30 May 2019 21:15:38 +0000

Hey Sylvie + Kevine,

Is there a way to view all the videos by trainer?

Specifically, I've seen a few of your Karuhat videos (awesome BTW) and was watching the "Karuhat - Serpentine Knees and Flow" video most recently and saw you remarked that there's over 30 hours from the 1 month intensive you did. Was wondering if there's anyway to easily view all videos by Karuhat from the intensive.

Thanks!

Eric

Huge Improvement - A Search Bar Added to the Patreon Library

Thu, 05 Mar 2020 17:44:19 +0000

Patreon just keeps getting better. One of the difficulties with Patreon was that Sylvie just had so much post. This is a good thing, but scrolling through looking for stuff was a pain. Patreon has now added a Search Bar so titles can be searched for by keyword. And, the Table of Contents of the Library is now pinned to the top of the Posts Tab, which you can find here.

It all looks like this:

You can also see that there are also tags for searching through the vast material.

Always getting better.

Here is a screenshot of the Sylvie Study Intensive as well:

Patreon Muay Thai Library - The Podcast Version (iTunes)

Fri, 16 Aug 2019 06:15:31 +0000

The response has been pretty awesome for the Muay Thai Bones podcast, just me and Sylvie diving way down into the most details and big notion ideas that lie within Muay Thai, crazy as it may be. You can find the videos of those podcasts here on YouTube. So we're thinking of creating a podcast version of new Muay Thai Library sessions, and doing something special around the Muay Thai Library sessions. In the past we have put up the audio of some of them on Soundcloud, but we want to do something more, richer, more satisfying. We realize that we put up so much high-density content it's almost impossible to take it all in, so it might be nice to listen passively, on the run, to the sessions, and decide if they sound like something you'd like to watch in video, and study.

What we are thinking of is maybe a kind of mini-Muay Thai Bones, big idea chat session that could be also a video, maybe 20 minutes or so filmed after the session was done, a kind of Library Coffee (maybe just literally drinking coffee and hour later), followed by the audio of the session itself. This should give an hour and a half of good listening. No, you would not be able to see the video, obviously, but maybe we can help bring it alive more in Sylvie's audio commentary, and conversation. Back when we would just drop the audio file on Soundcloud several people wrote to say that they really enjoyed this. They would listen in the car, or on the way to the gym, and feel more connected to the Muay Thai of Thailand. Because a lot of what we are trying to do is to make people feel like they are here, and also bring out the bigger, important ideas of Muay Thai, and Muay Thai history, this seems like a good way to go.

I'm starting this post here mostly to get feedback, and to hear from you on ideas for things that would make this more interesting. We're open to all thoughts, but know that we have to find things that have as little friction in development, simply because we are already pretty swamped by all the content Sylvie already produces. Things that involve typed out translation, timestamps, anything that digs into piece by piece work is at this point overwhelming, to be honest. We are already backed up on some incredible projects that hopefully are coming your way.

But, if we can come up with innovative, creative ideas, ways to create more context, more detail, and a more enjoyable way to feel connected to the session through audio, that would be awesome.

Thank you to everyone supporting us on Patreon already. And, if you don't follow Muay Thai Bones on iTunes you can find out how to subscribe in this post here.

If you don't know what the Muay Thai Library project is, check it out here. There is now over 80 hours of archived, commentary training footage with legends and brilliant krus of Thailand.

Stepping on the foot in Muay Thai - Yodkhunpon Session

Thu, 18 Jul 2019 08:22:35 +0000

I was rewatching the library session "Yodkhunpon "The Elbow Hunter" pt 1 | Slicing Elbow 37 min" and was wondering something:

Yodkhunpon tries to get Sylvie to step in towards the opponent very deeply and very close to their front foot for a horizontal, slicing "fan sok" elbow.

Since I had the experience in Kali training years back that stepping ON an opponents foot seriously messes with their movement and ability to execute whatever they're trying to do I was wondering if that was an option in Muay Thai. I don't think I've actually seen Muay Thai fighters do that so I wonder if it is even allowed in fights.

In Kali I got to the point where stepping precisely on an opponents foot when closing distance became pretty much natural and automatic for me and it seemed very effective but this is in a martial art that does not have a ring-fighting variant or rules at all, so...

9 Fighters of the Year in the Muay Thai Libary

Sun, 07 Jul 2019 06:09:56 +0000

9 Fighters of the Year

With the addition of Namsaknoi to the Library we now have an incredible 9 Fighters of the Year documented in the Muay Thai Library. reaching all the way back to 1972 (RIP Sirimongkol who was precious to capture), covering over 25 years of elite greatness. It's one thing to look at a list (below), but such another thing to actually look at their muay, and the men themselves, their personalities, their rhythm and movement. It's kind of incredible that this has been assembled, and we definitely have plans to look document as many of these yodmuay as we can. This is over 12 hours of archival footage. Thank you patrons for making this all possible. It is literally preserving the legacy.

There are 4 Muay Khao fighters (Dieselnoi, Langsuan, Chamuakphet, Samson - he considers himself a Muay Khao fighter) which is awesome because this was a rather undocumented, under celebrated style of Muay Thai until only a few years ago. It's recent appreciation has in some part come through Sylvie's revival and archiving of it. You could add Naksaknoi, who was a pressuring fighter who would finish opponents off in the clinch, that would make 5 Muay Khao fighters. You have two Muay Maat punchers in Samson and Kongtoranee. Kaensak was also adept with his hands, and Samart and Sirimongkol as well. And maybe 4 Muay Femeu fighters in Namsaknoi (he fought both ways), Samart, Sirimongkol and Kaensak. A very nice cross section of absolutely elite fighting styles.

Naksaknoi (1996): #65 Namsaknoi Yudthagarngamtorn - Sharking The Angles (67 min) watch it here

Samson (1991): #41 Samson Isaan - The Art of Dern Fighting (64 min) watch it here

Kaensak (1989, 1990): #24 Kaensak Sor. Ploenjit - Explosive Defense (55 min) watch it here

Samart (1981, 1983, 1988): #34 Samart Payakaroon - Balance, Balance, Balance! (81 min) watch it here

Langsuan (1987): #45 Langsuan Panyutapum - Monster Muay Khao Training (66 min) watch it here

Chamuakphet (1985): #49 Chamuakpet Hapalang - Devastating Knee in Combination (66 min) watch it here

Kongtoranee (1978, 1984): #37 Kongtoranee Payakaroon - Power In The Hands (89 min) watch it here

Sirimongkol (1972): #54 The Late Sirimongkol and Lertrit Master General Tunwakom (81 min) watch it here

A list of the older Fighters of the Year winners:

1999 – Saenchai Sor Kingstar (Highlight Video Here)
1998 – Kaolan Kaowichit (Highlight Video Here)
1997 – Anantasak Panyuthapoom
1996 – Namsaknoi Yuthkarnkamthon (Highlight Video Here)
1995 – Kaoponglek Luksuratham (Highlight Video Here)
1994 – Orono Por Muangubon (Highlight Video Here)
1993 – Wangchannoi Sor Palangchai (Highlight Video Here)
1992 – Jaroensap Kiatbanchong
1991 – Saenmuangnoi Lukjaophomehesak (Samson Isarn) (Highlight Video Here)
1990 – Kaensak Sor Ploenchit (Highlight Video Here)

1989 – Kaensak Sor Ploenchit
1988 – Samart Payakaroon (Highlight Video Here)
1987 – Langsuan Panyuthapoom
1986 – Panomthuanlek 5 Palang
1985 – Chamuekpetch 5 Palang
1984 – Kongthoranee Payakarun
1983 – Samart Payakarun
1982 – Dieselnoi C. Thanasukarn (Highlight Video Here)
1981 – Samart Payakarun
1980 – Nongkhai S. Prapassorn

1979 – Phadetsuek Pitsarnurachan
1978 – Kongthoranee Payakarun
1977 – Vicharnoi Porntawee (Old Footage Here)
1976 – Porsai Sittbunlert
1975 – Pud Pad Noi Vorawud (Highlight Video Here)
1974 – Puth Lawlek
1973 – Sansak Muangsurin (Classic Fight Here)
1972 – Sirimongkol Luksiripat
1971 – Seechang Sakornpitak (Classic Fight Here)
1970 – Fasai Taweechai

taken from this website source, which is posting from a book

Examples of Low Kicks in the Muay Thai Library

Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:10:45 +0000

Hi!

I've been perusing the muay thai library erratically, and I have noticed that a lot of trainers don't really cover lowkicks.

Pornsanae's the power of hooks and low kicks was amazing, are there other sessions in the library that are a must see on low kicks? What's your favorite one?

Also, as a side note, do Thai trainers always emphasize middle kicks in training?

All the best,

Gilles

Muay Thai Similarities to Other Martial Arts - Kali, etc.

Wed, 29 May 2019 14:14:00 +0000

Kali (Pekiti Tirsia to be more specific) is the only other martial art I have practiced for a significant time (about 8 years or so). It's a Filipino art that is not very "sportified" and is based on the use of blades and impact weapons (empty hands training is done, too though but its based on the same patterns and concepts as the blades).

I found it really interesting how similarities between different arts pop up, especially with the more traditional styles.

There is so much that sounded very much familiar to me in the Muay Lertrit sessions. Things that are either very much the same as I learned in Kali or at least follow the same principle.

There is this thing about "let them try to strike you but make them pay every time" that we also did a lot. Directly counterattacking instead of blocking is a central concept there. Stuff like parrying a punch with a move that, if done well, is supposed to strike the opponent in the same move as it parries their punch. Or making someone who uses a leg kick on you pay by not only blocking with your own shin but dropping your knee on their ankle while doing so, very similarly to what the general demonstrates in that one session.

Also I've watched the session with Gen Hongthonglek a few times and only the last time it suddenly occurred to me that the way he uses fakes, delayed timing and counters is actually very similar to how I used to do sparring with the stick in Kali when I was more experienced. I'd typically move back to keep range (I'm a very tall guy with long arms) and would constantly weave my stick in front of me or throw my opponent off with some weird position kind of like Gen does with his feet before he lands his big kicks.

This kinda stuff is really fascinating to me. Sure there are differences between arts but often there are also overlaps or concepts that can be applied to other arts as well.

Did you have similar experiences?

PS: Of course there are differences, too: For example Kali teaches you to give not getting hit (at all if possible) top priority because an opponent could always carry a weapon even if you don't see it right away so every hit might be very dangerous. Thats something I have to practice to overcome a bit in Muay Thai where the opponent is guaranteed to not have a weapon and getting hit is not actually a mistake in principle.

The Craft of Legendary Fighters - How Fighters Become Artists

Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:53:50 +0000

We were talking to Chatchai Sasakul, a fighter who fought so many of the greats in the Golden Age in Muay Thai, and then came into fame winning the WBC World Championship western boxing belt. He's in the Library here, and we are about to add another session with him. We were asking him why in his fight style back in the day he wasn't doing many of the things that he was advocating now. He said, "back then I didn't know". He looked at us like we were crazy, like "what do you think I've been doing for 20 years since I retired" or "of course I didn't know, I was young". It brought home for me one of the most special things about the Library. We talk about it as if it is preserving the literal techniques of the Golden Age, but it is much more than that. It's preserving those techniques AS they have undergone a period of reflection and refinement. If you talked to an active fighter you may very well get some very noteworthy pointers on how to fight. But if you talk to that fighter 15 or 20 years later you get something very different. You get those elements having passed through a very long stage of reflection. You get to see those elements, very often, taken up as craft.

Sometimes, if that fighter has fallen out from the fight game entirely, like maybe someone like Samson Isaan (in the Library here), and who is a taxi driver, this is mostly the craft of recollection, of memory. What he knows and thinks about are all the things that worked for him, and probably some of the things that didn't work for him, things that had success against him. The whole thing goes into a process of memory's slow boil, low and slow, and what you get is a condensed essence of fight knowledge, his style, under refinement. Even if he isn't actively working on improving on or conveying his fighting style, it has been worked on by memory and reflection. It is the art of his style, his knowledge.

On the other hand when you have someone like Sagat - you can find him in the Library here - this is someone who has been teaching Muay Thai for probably three decades. Not only is he bringing his fight style, the one he once had, but he has become a craftman about it. What he is teaching is a rarified, purified form of his fighting style, something that has been honed and polished over decades of communication and thought. What he is showing you in the ring today is very different than what he would have showed you 30 years ago. It is enhanced, has been worked on endlessly. Not in the "I've got to be a better teacher" way, but rather that each time you try to convey something you touch it a little, you change it, you add reflection on it. Sagat teaches a great deal of precision and correction on his strikes, as does Chatchai, who also has been teaching for years. Chatchai as a fighter would drift away on his jab. Today he insists, do not do this, this is stupid.

I've seen Sagat incorporate things into his teaching that I know he recently has experienced - for instance he has been helping General Tunwakom teach Muay Lertrit lately. These internal elbows are now in his mind, as he teaches movements. Sagat is 60 years old, and his Muay is still evolving. I've watch Karuhat come up with brilliant throws, things he is simply inventing on the spot, feeling his way on, things I've never seen before, because Karuhat when he was a fighter in his gym would always be experimenting, stealing things from others, dreaming up new wrinkles. When we look back in time, through our telescope of the Library it isn't like how starlight is reaching us from far away, how it was years ago. It's instead coming to us with immediacy, having passed through the reflections of these men, as they have become craftsmen, working on the raw materials of their fight days, lifting it to art.

Perhaps nobody is more like this than Master K, Sylvie's first instructor back in America. He's 80 years old now, and his Muay Thai is this incredible time capsule of Muay Thai before the Golden Age, the Muay Thai of the late 1960s 1970s. But...it also is filtered and hand sanded by the mind of a Thai man who was no longer in Thailand, reflected on, improved and dreamed up through watching the great boxers of the decades, long ruminations in his own basement kicking the bag until 2 AM, the result of a craft-work of elaboration and self-creation. I think that is what a lot of us miss. These men, all of these men, are producing the work of their mind, as artists, as creators, bringing to life and carrying forward a new thing. It isn't just their techniques, or even their fighting styles. It's the fecundity of the years since they stopped fighting. It is their meditation.

What is also kind of incredible is that these ruminations, these craft-works, have been documented and continue to be documented. And that Sylvie has first hand seen them.
You can see the full library here.

Learning clinch, based on patreon Muay Thai Library content

Wed, 22 May 2019 12:23:25 +0000

Yesterday, I sent the following message directly to Sylvie.
While the question was originally meant for her, I'd appreciate other people's insights as well.

--- actual message ---

I have been casually (1 or 2 classes per week) training Muay thai near my home in Belgium for about a year.
The classes are great, but there is little to no clinching.
The main reason is that the gym's head trainer has very little clinching experience.

As I'd really like to get into clinching, I am going to take some privates with another trainer at the gym.
Apparently he has some clinching experience, and his knowledge is probably adequate for learning the basics like posture, balance, swimming in, same basic positions and their counters.

Having watched most of your content on Patreon, (your videos with Yodkhunpon are especially awesome), there are a few things I want to integrate into my clinching sessions from the beginning.
1. Playing around with the clinch, not just doing drills
2. Building a frame (You explained it quite well in a video where you're teaching it to your friend Kate)
3. learning some extremely dominant positions to work towards.

Looking through your Patreon content, the following positions stood out to me:
1. The basic lock you learned from Bank (Seems like a strong basic position to learn, and useful to progress to even better positions)
2. Satanmuanglek's Lock, using shoulder pressure under the chin (Seems like a direct upgrade to Bank's lock, if you can manage to get to it)
3. Tanadet's long clinch (Looks like it's very powerful once you get the hang of it, and can relax in the position the way Tanadet does)
4. Rambaa's arm lock (Seems like a guaranteed win, if you can get into this position)

A few other positions I'd like to look into in the long term are:
Yodkhunpon's standard clinch position (1 hand controlling the neck/head, the other resting on the opposite bicep/shoulder, ready to elbow)
Dieselnoi's favorite head lock: 2 hands on the back of the opponents head, and kneeing until your opponent collapses

These last two look great in your video's, but I suspect they're more dependent on the specific style of striking of the fighter to be successful.

Do you think the overall approach I describe above is a good way to go about learning clinch? Do you think the dominant positions I described are a good collection to look into, or would you add some more / leave a few out?
I'd appreciate any advise you can give me.

Thomas